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03-28-2011, 04:17 PM   #1
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The slow death of 220 film

I found my 220 insert for the 645 this weekend, and I was looking to fill it. So far, it seems that there are basically color print films, and that is about it. Ebay is full of sellers of large quantities of out of date 220, indicating that it is probably not moving. There is no B&W option, that I can see. Is this film package headed the way of the dinosaur?

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I sure would have liked some 220 B & W last week when I was at the Grand Canyon. It was 24 degrees at 6 AM, and I thought I didn't need gloves. Changing 1 roll of film was a challenge with cold fingers. You would think one film company would make B&W 220 to corner that niche market.

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Know what you mean. I've been wondering about that too. I did a web search and turned this up.

220 black and white film - can you buy it anywhere now? - Photo.net Film and Processing Forum

Honestly, in my Pentax 645 I find that 220 is too much for one shoot and I always want to change it out before the roll is done.
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I've been buying short dated Provia 100f 220 locally...can't find anything fresh online.
For my purposes, 220 is pretty much essential; so this is bad news for me.

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freestylephotgo.biz is showing pro packs of Portra 160NC plus the New Portra 400 in 220. I went to amazon.com and searched for 220 film and you still can get 18 pro pacs of Fuji Pro 400H, 20 pro packs of Portra 400VC, 20 pro pacs of Portra 160VC, 3 pro pacs of Portra 160NC, 2 pro pacs of Fujicolor Pro 800Z, 2 rolls of Fujichrome Provia F and 7 pro pacs of Fujicolor Pro 160S

But I feel 220 will soon be gone. It makes me appreciate having hot-swapping backs now more than ever on my 500C/M.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
freestylephotgo.biz is showing pro packs of Portra 160NC plus the New Portra 400 in 220. I went to amazon.com and searched for 220 film and you still can get 18 pro pacs of Fuji Pro 400H, 20 pro packs of Portra 400VC, 20 pro pacs of Portra 160VC, 3 pro pacs of Portra 160NC, 2 pro pacs of Fujicolor Pro 800Z, 2 rolls of Fujichrome Provia F and 7 pro pacs of Fujicolor Pro 160S

But I feel 220 will soon be gone. It makes me appreciate having hot-swapping backs now more than ever on my 500C/M.
I tried to do a search for 220 on Freestyle's site and got nothing. I saw that Amazon does have the new Portra 400 and Fuji 400 and odds and ends of other color print such as the Fuji 800. Expired 160 color films are being listed on Ebay by the crate.

I was really looking for B&W. I guess I can throw the spiral reel for 220 away. Saturday night, I shot a dance party on the P645 with 3 rolls of Ilford Delta Pro 3200, and I was wanting the 220. It would have saved me threading an insert on site. Mid-roll changes wouldn't really have helped, though a few more 120 inserts would have been welcome.
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I'm hoping the concentration on 120 helps to generate enough profit for Fuji and co. to keep producing the films. And wherever one film is not going to be enough, inserts are cheap (and you can modify 220 inserts to use them as 120s)—even with cold fingers, that should work!
It has the added bonus of changing more easily when you want to use another film.
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No, No. Don't throw it away.

You can easily modify your 220 cartridge for 120.

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I was really looking for B&W. I guess I can throw the spiral reel for 220 away. Saturday night, I shot a dance party on the P645 with 3 rolls of Ilford Delta Pro 3200, and I was wanting the 220. It would have saved me threading an insert on site. Mid-roll changes wouldn't really have helped, though a few more 120 inserts would have been welcome.
Oh, I see. Yes, the death of 320TXP marked the end of 220 in BW. I take it's just a quick pop-on, pop-off with the 120 inserts on your 645? Maybe time to invest in a few.
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No, No. Don't throw it away.

You can easily modify your 220 cartridge for 120.
Good to hear. I knew I'd seen something about that on this forum.

I was talking about throwing away the 220 spiral reel for the developing, tank, not the insert. Since there is no more 220 B&W, it is becoming a weight for film drying.

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Oh, I see. Yes, the death of 320TXP marked the end of 220 in BW. I take it's just a quick pop-on, pop-off with the 120 inserts on your 645? Maybe time to invest in a few.
The 120 inserts are getting rare. On Ebay right now, there are multiple (11) 220 inserts for sale and no 120 inserts. There are no inserts listed on KEH apart from camera bodies. Most of the bodies seem to include 220 inserts.
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220 is good for shooting people so it's still available for C-41. But even that, my local photo store doesn't have any. Freestyle still has some portra and i bought some expired provia 100f from ebay. Have a few left in my freezer. Don't have any B&W though.

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Really, there is nothing wrong with 220 for other uses as well. We don't think anything of using 36 Exp. 135 for just about any use.

I've just shot a test roll of some expired (12/09) Fuji 160S in 220 from Ebay. It is dirt cheap at $3.00 per roll, and it will be lots of fun if it is usable. If not, then I wasted the cost of a lunch picking up a 5 pack.
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Where the heck are good instructions for doing this and have you actually done it successfully?

Thanks,

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Where the heck are good instructions for doing this and have you actually done it successfully?

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Uh.. for doing what?
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