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03-29-2011, 10:24 AM   #1
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6 x 45 slide mounting

I've recently built up a Pentax 645n kit, including a Kindermann 6 x 6 projector, and from Ebay a number of 6 x 45 slide mounts. These are made of a white bristol board or some such and seem to have a dry adhesive on the inside of the mount as they would fold up.

Back in the day I can recall mounting 35mm slides in Kodak mounts which had an adhesive activated by the heat of an ordinary household iron.

Might these mounts work in the same way? I don't see any maker's name. Any suggestions about the heat to set on the iron? Given how hard it is to find 6 x 45 mounts I hesitate to experiment, although I will if I have to. From all I can find I'll have to mount any slides I take myself, since I haven't run across any processors who mount 120 slides, let alone 6 x 45.

I've seen listings for glass mounts, they get expensive! Anyone have a source for cardboard mounts? I remember making 4 x 4 superslides mounted in cardboard, they held up okay if handled with care.

Thanks!

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the last part answered your question. you have some factory made templates at hand. pick up some acid free mount and some dry mount adhesive and cut them yourself is the easiest method. though you may occasionally find deals on ebay worth buying the glass mounts though great are damn expensive as you pointed out

of course i looked after and found these guys with what looks to be good value

http://dotlinecorp.net/index.php?cPath=745&main_page=index
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Thanks, Eddie -

Sadly the link you so kindly sent isn't any cheaper than Adorama or B & H. Such is life. I'd imagine that the same iron temp suitable for dry mount tissue would be save for these mounts, although taking GREAT care not to touch the film!
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Good luck then. I never mount my medium format just scan them, or if i need a print have a cibachrome variant done (I know i could print from a good scan and will for proofs, but nothing like a cibachrome print)
I have to watch for a deal on a medium format projector i think since i no longer shoot 35 slide very often, but still shoot it on MF pretty regularly
need to keep my eyes open in the junk shops i think (I got a smoking deal on a 35 mm projector that way years back that has served me well)
there is acid free glue available as well AFAIK that may be safer to use than an iron

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thought so

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Hey Eddie

The Elmer's is worth a shot. BTW, I scored a Kindermann 6 x 6 plus two trays at a moderate price. My guess is that 6 x 6 projectors are a rare item in the junk shops, but I wish you luck!

Thanks again.
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i saw the ebay price so it give me a frame of reference, you'd be surprised what shows up at junk shops and goodwill. i don't find stuff every trip but regular visits pay off
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As a followup while on a Google search for something else, I came across slidescribe.com They have a sizeable variety of archival slide mounts, of the fold over sort, some with adhesive, some without. Here is what they offer:

WHITE MOUNTS-with adhesive
Catalog# Format Image Opening Outside Size Packaging Price
XG-GM-W* 6 x 8cm 54 x 74 mm 3 -15/16" x 4- 15/16" 50/pkg $8.95 buy
XD-GM-W 6 x 9cm
(70 mm) 54 x 81 mm 3 -15/16" x 4- 15/16" 50/pkg $7.95 buy
XE-GJ-W 4" x 5" 3-9/16 x 4-9/16" 4 -15/16" x 7 50/pkg $11.95 buy
XO-GJ-W 6 x 12cm, PAN 2-1/8" x 4-7/16" 4-7/8" x 7-5/8" 25/pkg $11.95 buy
XH-GJ-W 35mm WideLux 22.5mm x 57mm 3-1/2" sq 25/pkg $5.95 buy

* for 70mm dupes enlarged from 6 x 4.5cm originals and for the 6 x 8cm Fuji camera
WHITE MOUNTS - currently without adhesive
XM-GN-W 35mm 22 x 34mm 2" x 2" 100/pkg $7.95 buy
XA-GM-W 6 x 4.5cm 53.5 x 41mm 2-3/4" sq 50/pkg $11.95 buy
XB-GM-W 6 x 6cm 54 x 54mm 3-1/2" sq 50/pkg $9.95 buy
XC-GM-W 6 x 7cm 54 x 68mm 3-1/2" sq 50/pkg $14.95 buy

BLACK MOUNTS
Catalog# Format Image Opening Outside Size Packaging Price
XG-GM-B* 6 x 8cm 54 x 74mm 3 -15/16" x 4- 15/16" 50/pkg $8.95 buy
XD-GM-B 6 x 9cm
(70 mm) 54 x 81mm 3 -15/16" x 4- 15/16" 50/pkg $7.95 buy
XE-GJ-B 4" x 5" 3-9/16 x 4-9/16" 4 -15/16" x 7 50/pkg $11.95 buy
XO-GJ-B 6 x 12cm PAN 2-1/8" x 4-7/16" 4-7/8" x 7-5/8" 25/pkg $11.95

buy
* for 70mm dupes enlarged from 6 x 4.5cm originals and for the 6 x 8 cm Fuji camera

I've ordered some for 645 slides, we'll see how they look.

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I have bought mounts from Slidescribe for years. The guy I deal with is Monty. I buy 6x6, 645 and 67 mounts without adhesive. I use a top grade rubber cement to paint the surfaces and let dry. Then I fold them to close. The dry adhesive, so common in these type mounts, seems to dry up after several years and the mount comes apart.
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Desertscape -

Many thanks for your user report. Another forum respondent suggested an Elmer's product. I've heard bad things about rubber cement, at least regarding adhering prints to mat boards. Something about out gassing nasty print destroying chemicals. And slides are absolutely irreplaceable, unlike prints...at least in theory!
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I think it depends on how you use it. If you wet mount using rubber cement, the N- Hexane solvent will affect both slides and prints. I haven't seen any degradation of my slides using the dry method and I've been doing this for five years.
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