Which MF camera?

desertscape · 09-07-2011, 12:35 PM

Regarding the difference in sharpness between RZ/RB lenses and P67 lenses; if you pick your P67 lenses carefully, you will not see a difference. It is well known which lenses these are.

adpo · 09-07-2011, 01:46 PM

missed the hasselblad, so looks like i'm getting the RB

Thanks for the help everyone!

redrockcoulee · 09-07-2011, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by adpo

Looks like i'll catch another buying addiction at this rate, there's just so many different things to choose from

spotted a hasselblad 500c with WL viewfinder, 2 120 backs and an 80mm f/2.8 lens for $450, is this a good deal? If not, i'll just nab that RB67 off KEH

If it is a 500c not a 500 cm than not as good a deal if you want to change the screen to a brighter one. If the lens is a C not a CF and depending on the type of back it runs from a good deal to an average price.

I have in the past shot with a Mamiya 645 and a Rolleichord but now the Hasselblad is my camera of choice. I was presented with the opportunity to use one for a little over a year and during that time it just seemed right. Try to borrow some different medium format cameras or try them in a camera store that has used equipment. There is nothing like hands on to see if one camera is the right one for you. A friend of mine just could not get into a Rolleiflex for example. Not sure if any of the systems that have been suggested are anything but good but you might also be hearing of what works for them as the recommended system. The 500 C/M feels right for me and as I only have three lenses and got some backs really cheap it still was not that expensive. If I shot differently I might have gotten a different system. Holding them in your hand is better than listening to what I like to use. Good luck and enjoy it whatever it may end up being.

pinholecam · 09-12-2011, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by tuco

1. The P67 is only ~~1/60~~ 1/30. 1/500 with its two leaf shutter lenses.
2. P67 will have a range of fast f2.8 and f2.4 lenses in its lineup.

Thanks for the correction. Yeah, I decided the flash sync speed was too slow for portraits of my children, so I had to give up on P67.

At times, I wish I got the P67 for those fast lenses.

Vertex Ninja · 09-12-2011, 04:43 PM

Another option are Bronicas. The RF645 is a Phenomenal camera and I wish I still had mine. Ergonomics and size are great, as is the build quality and optics. ETRSI is also nice and it is ridiculously cheap to buy into that system.

I love my Rolleiflex, but a TLR is probably not the best choice for landscapes. Great for walking around with though, and people love to stop and talk about them. Like tuco said, you'll probably end up with two or more systems eventually. In addition to my Rollei I have an Agfa folder I got for cheap to carry in my cargo pocket while hiking. I won't feel too bad if it falls off a cliff, but I'd be tempted to jump off after my Rollei. I'm also gonna buy a Hasselblad soon because I want something smaller than my 4x5 that I can take on family trips for tripod use. The 4x5 takes way too long to unpack and setup with two young ones running around. In my opinion, with 35mm your system/brand choice doesn't really amount to much, but in medium format I think it's really hard to find a camera for all instances.

I agree with what redrockcoulee said about having to try for yourself. All anyone can do is tell you why a particular camera was the right choice for them.

Yamanobori · 09-12-2011, 05:40 PM

If you hike into the wilderness with your medium-format gear, than the Mamiya 6/7 or the Bronica RF645 are great choices with interchangeable lenses. The Fuji rangefinders are great too. The RB/RZs are monsters. The Pentax 645 would be the best choice for packing on your list.

tuco · 09-12-2011, 06:33 PM

P645 1320g small negatives, M6 890g and bigger negatives, M7II 920g and bigger negatives.

Last edited by tuco; 09-12-2011 at 06:38 PM.

stevebrot · 09-13-2011, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by tuco

P645 1320g small negatives, M6 890g and bigger negatives, M7II 920g and bigger negatives.

That pretty much sums it. When I had the 645N on loan, I took it on a day hike. While it was nicely packable, bulk and weight were still an issues, particularly as a two lens kit.

Steve

Raffwal · 09-13-2011, 12:33 PM

If I may borrow (and hopefully not just confuse) this fine thread: which MF camera would you recommend to be used with a Polaroid back today?

09-12-2011, 04:43 PM	#20
Vertex Ninja Inactive Account Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 652	Another option are Bronicas. The RF645 is a Phenomenal camera and I wish I still had mine. Ergonomics and size are great, as is the build quality and optics. ETRSI is also nice and it is ridiculously cheap to buy into that system. I love my Rolleiflex, but a TLR is probably not the best choice for landscapes. Great for walking around with though, and people love to stop and talk about them. Like tuco said, you'll probably end up with two or more systems eventually. In addition to my Rollei I have an Agfa folder I got for cheap to carry in my cargo pocket while hiking. I won't feel too bad if it falls off a cliff, but I'd be tempted to jump off after my Rollei. I'm also gonna buy a Hasselblad soon because I want something smaller than my 4x5 that I can take on family trips for tripod use. The 4x5 takes way too long to unpack and setup with two young ones running around. In my opinion, with 35mm your system/brand choice doesn't really amount to much, but in medium format I think it's really hard to find a camera for all instances. I agree with what redrockcoulee said about having to try for yourself. All anyone can do is tell you why a particular camera was the right choice for them. Last edited by Vertex Ninja; 09-12-2011 at 06:54 PM.

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09-07-2011, 12:35 PM	#16
desertscape Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,272	Regarding the difference in sharpness between RZ/RB lenses and P67 lenses; if you pick your P67 lenses carefully, you will not see a difference. It is well known which lenses these are.

09-07-2011, 01:46 PM	#17
adpo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery Posts: 888 Original Poster	missed the hasselblad, so looks like i'm getting the RB Thanks for the help everyone!

09-07-2011, 01:49 PM	#18
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by adpo Looks like i'll catch another buying addiction at this rate, there's just so many different things to choose from spotted a hasselblad 500c with WL viewfinder, 2 120 backs and an 80mm f/2.8 lens for $450, is this a good deal? If not, i'll just nab that RB67 off KEH If it is a 500c not a 500 cm than not as good a deal if you want to change the screen to a brighter one. If the lens is a C not a CF and depending on the type of back it runs from a good deal to an average price. I have in the past shot with a Mamiya 645 and a Rolleichord but now the Hasselblad is my camera of choice. I was presented with the opportunity to use one for a little over a year and during that time it just seemed right. Try to borrow some different medium format cameras or try them in a camera store that has used equipment. There is nothing like hands on to see if one camera is the right one for you. A friend of mine just could not get into a Rolleiflex for example. Not sure if any of the systems that have been suggested are anything but good but you might also be hearing of what works for them as the recommended system. The 500 C/M feels right for me and as I only have three lenses and got some backs really cheap it still was not that expensive. If I shot differently I might have gotten a different system. Holding them in your hand is better than listening to what I like to use. Good luck and enjoy it whatever it may end up being.

09-12-2011, 01:26 AM	#19
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by tuco 1. The P67 is only ~~1/60~~ 1/30. 1/500 with its two leaf shutter lenses. 2. P67 will have a range of fast f2.8 and f2.4 lenses in its lineup. Thanks for the correction. Yeah, I decided the flash sync speed was too slow for portraits of my children, so I had to give up on P67. At times, I wish I got the P67 for those fast lenses.

09-12-2011, 05:40 PM	#21
Yamanobori Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 573	If you hike into the wilderness with your medium-format gear, than the Mamiya 6/7 or the Bronica RF645 are great choices with interchangeable lenses. The Fuji rangefinders are great too. The RB/RZs are monsters. The Pentax 645 would be the best choice for packing on your list.

09-12-2011, 06:33 PM	#22
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	P645 1320g small negatives, M6 890g and bigger negatives, M7II 920g and bigger negatives. Last edited by tuco; 09-12-2011 at 06:38 PM.

09-13-2011, 07:29 AM	#23
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by tuco P645 1320g small negatives, M6 890g and bigger negatives, M7II 920g and bigger negatives. That pretty much sums it. When I had the 645N on loan, I took it on a day hike. While it was nicely packable, bulk and weight were still an issues, particularly as a two lens kit. Steve

09-13-2011, 12:33 PM	#24
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	If I may borrow (and hopefully not just confuse) this fine thread: which MF camera would you recommend to be used with a Polaroid back today?