Originally posted by LFLee Well, I know Pentax didn't have a TLR. I wonder if anyone here have one?
The looks of these cameras really unique and I would really like to try one on.
Can someone recommend TLR in each of these category?
1. 'cheap' (<$100) and good, but not easy to obtain;
2. reasonably priced (<$250), and good models;
3. really good but also expensive;
4. legendary TLR.
and finally, the 'best' first TLR you would recommend for beginner.
*I am looking for MF TLR (or TLR that also accept 35mm with adapter)*
Thanks!
Lee
I did lots of reading up, but settled for what I wanted to spend on TLRs for the budget I allocated for playing with them.
Settled for a Yashicamat and Meopta Flexaret
From your list :
1. 'cheap' (<$100) and good, but not easy to obtain;
>> I did not look much in this range, probably the Lomo Lubitel, which if you get a good one is supposed to work well enough for its price.
Didn't want to venture into the super cheap and end up buy a few of them, just to get a good one, so this was not in my consideration.
You may also look at some of the lesser know brands or lower end Ricoh models on ebay.
In fact if you are
lucky, any TLR from Yashica 124 downwards can be had for <$100
2. reasonably priced (<$250), and good models;
>> Plenty of models in this range.
Yashicamat/124/124G; Ricoh Diacords; Minolta Autocords are the common ones ppl look for and agree upon to have good performance.
Meopta flexaret at the lower end of this price tier.
I'd recommend looking at this range too.
3. really good but also expensive;
>> The really good ones are here, but prices vary a lot.
A Rolleicord or Mamiya C series TLR can be had on the lower end of the price tier.
The very good Rolleiflex with f2.8 taking lens on the highest end of pricing.
4. legendary TLR.
>> Way beyond my budget to even look
The thing about all these TLRs are that they are very old and many have picked up some problems here and there.
Oily lens; dim focusing screens; slow aperture; lens separation, winding mechanism failure being some of the common problems with age.
I got through 2 Yashicamats to get a good one (even that one had an oily lens that I had to clean out).
On the exterior, they all look great.
The Meopta Flexaret is a viable option to look at. This is a Czeh made TLR, and is pretty good. There is a Czeh guy ( Cupog) on ebay who sells CLAed ones at a decent price, and I got one from him, to save myself all the trouble of getting problematic ones at cheaper prices. There are other sellers as well, but no idea if they are reliable.
The one that really intrigued me was the Mamiya TLR C series as this was the only system TLR with interchangeable lenses (some were very fast too at f2.8).
Beautiful cameras too.
I got over the CBA itch for it after battling it for about a year. (reason below)
In the end, I stopped looking at getting more TLRs esp the higher end ones for the following reasons :
1. Old age problems (as mentioned above) and risks of buying on ebay.
2. For the pricier ones, they don't present as much value anymore compared to some of the other MF options that have gone done in price. 645/66/67 options avaliable from Bronica/ Fuji/ Polaroid/ Mamiya/ Pentax provide more options and a better value proposition without as much risk of old age camera problems.
My main issues with TLRs (at least the cheap ones) are :
1. About 1.3m minimum focus distance, so not that great for smaller stuff
2. Rather slow taking lenses (not an issue and indeed incredible with those expensive Rollei f2.8 ones);
3. Needs some stopping down for better sharpness and then combined with #1; DOF isn't that shallow anymore.
But I really love them and the way they look (Someone make a digital one PLEASE! )
Good luck on your search.