645D lens roadmap 2012

ogl · 02-10-2012, 12:51 AM

**blackcloudbrew** · 02-10-2012, 01:11 AM

Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new?

ogl · 02-10-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by blackcloudbrew

Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new?

Of course. You can order new FA lenses.

Adam · 02-10-2012, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by blackcloudbrew

Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new?

All of them are, yup, but only in Japan.

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ogl · 02-10-2012, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Adam

All of them are, yup, but only in Japan.

I can order some of lenses in Russia. But by order. Need to wait.

yasik · 02-10-2012, 01:51 AM

The main is "or later""

Kryscendo · 02-10-2012, 02:25 AM

Wow, looks like there really is a lot of 645 glass available. I thought it was just the one or two lenses.

elho_cid · 02-10-2012, 03:17 AM

All the lenses are available in central Europe as well, but not even the largest shops do have them in stock. But that is, I believe, normal and expected.

indyphil · 02-10-2012, 06:20 AM - **1 Like**

Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-10-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Adam

All of them are, yup, but only in Japan.

That is something Pentax USA should work on then.

There is one store here that does handle orders and has some stock:
Middenformaat | Objectieven | Foto Konijnenberg

FA lenses in stock (next to the D-FA55mm): 75mm; 120mm macro; 150mm; 80-160mm and 300mm. Currently no 645D body in stock, so that is a pitty since otherwise you could leave the shop with a full set (and empty pockets).

elho_cid · 02-10-2012, 09:35 AM

indyphil - very true, this way the flexibility of the 645D is quite limited.

Smolk · 02-10-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by indyphil

Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff.

If you have to calculate light and cock the shutter for each frame, autofocus is not really speeding things up. That is a manual world. In other words, the manual focus LS lenses will do just fine in that environment. And at least the 135mm is very good indeed (but I believe the LS 75mm is, too, I just did not have it long enough to confirm).

Having said that, the LS lenses are only available on the used market, and are far and few between. So yes, they should be made again, perhaps optimised for the digital age.

Yamanobori · 02-10-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by indyphil

Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff.

Did you buy a Hasselblad?

**Digitalis** · 02-10-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by indyphil

Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff.

yes overpowering the sun is rather popular with outdoor on-location portraiture, but like all popular things they will come in and out of fashion eventually. the 75mm f/2.8 LS gives the FOV of a 58mm lens, I consider this to be not a bad choice for full length portraiture, which is often the case in outdoor on-location shoots the 135mm f/4 LS also can be used to tighter shots. so I don't think there is much to complain about with the current line up. Lightning fast AF isn't all that important for on-location strobist or studio work.

Actually 1/500th synch speeds is a bit old hat...the top of the line Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter digital lenses for Mymiya AFD can synch at 1/1600th

Yamanobori · 02-10-2012, 09:24 PM

The new wide zoom on the road map looks interesting. It seems to start in the 20mmish range and I wonder about price compared with the prime.

02-10-2012, 12:51 AM	#1
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	645D lens roadmap 2012

02-10-2012, 01:15 AM	#3
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by blackcloudbrew Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new? Of course. You can order new FA lenses. Last edited by ogl; 02-10-2012 at 08:29 AM.

02-10-2012, 01:32 AM	#5
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by Adam All of them are, yup, but only in Japan. I can order some of lenses in Russia. But by order. Need to wait. Last edited by ogl; 02-10-2012 at 08:29 AM.

02-10-2012, 05:43 PM	#14
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by indyphil Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff. yes overpowering the sun is rather popular with outdoor on-location portraiture, but like all popular things they will come in and out of fashion eventually. the 75mm f/2.8 LS gives the FOV of a 58mm lens, I consider this to be not a bad choice for full length portraiture, which is often the case in outdoor on-location shoots the 135mm f/4 LS also can be used to tighter shots. so I don't think there is much to complain about with the current line up. Lightning fast AF isn't all that important for on-location strobist or studio work. Actually 1/500th synch speeds is a bit old hat...the top of the line Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter digital lenses for Mymiya AFD can synch at 1/1600th Last edited by Digitalis; 02-11-2012 at 12:36 AM.

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02-10-2012, 01:11 AM	#2
blackcloudbrew Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cotati, California USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,460	Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new?

02-10-2012, 01:17 AM	#4
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by blackcloudbrew Interesting but are all those other FA lenses available, new? All of them are, yup, but only in Japan. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-10-2012, 01:51 AM	#6
yasik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 234	The main is "or later""

02-10-2012, 02:25 AM	#7
Kryscendo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 222	Wow, looks like there really is a lot of 645 glass available. I thought it was just the one or two lenses.

02-10-2012, 03:17 AM	#8
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	All the lenses are available in central Europe as well, but not even the largest shops do have them in stock. But that is, I believe, normal and expected.

02-10-2012, 06:20 AM - 1 Like	#9
indyphil Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 19	Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff.

02-10-2012, 09:26 AM	#10
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Adam All of them are, yup, but only in Japan. That is something Pentax USA should work on then. There is one store here that does handle orders and has some stock: Middenformaat \| Objectieven \| Foto Konijnenberg FA lenses in stock (next to the D-FA55mm): 75mm; 120mm macro; 150mm; 80-160mm and 300mm. Currently no 645D body in stock, so that is a pitty since otherwise you could leave the shop with a full set (and empty pockets).

02-10-2012, 09:35 AM	#11
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	indyphil - very true, this way the flexibility of the 645D is quite limited.

02-10-2012, 10:07 AM	#12
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by indyphil Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff. If you have to calculate light and cock the shutter for each frame, autofocus is not really speeding things up. That is a manual world. In other words, the manual focus LS lenses will do just fine in that environment. And at least the 135mm is very good indeed (but I believe the LS 75mm is, too, I just did not have it long enough to confirm). Having said that, the LS lenses are only available on the used market, and are far and few between. So yes, they should be made again, perhaps optimised for the digital age.

02-10-2012, 10:16 AM	#13
Yamanobori Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 573	Originally posted by indyphil Personally I think they should get back to the leaf shutter design. Photographers value that 1/500th sync speed. Overpowering the sun is very popular, and the other more expensive medium format rigs all have that option. The only 645 glass with the leaf shutter that a Pentax owner can use is old, manual focus stuff. Did you buy a Hasselblad?

02-10-2012, 09:24 PM	#15
Yamanobori Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 573	The new wide zoom on the road map looks interesting. It seems to start in the 20mmish range and I wonder about price compared with the prime.