Originally posted by Makten 55/2.8 on the 645D eqauls a 43/2.2 on 24x36. If you want short DOF, that's not very impressive. There are plenty of f/1.4 lenses for the 24x36 format, and from that perspective f/2.8 might be "too slow".
Now, you are changing the subject from speed in relation to different formats to DoF. Yes, 35mm has had faster lenses than medium-format. But likewise, they are not slow. And certainly 35mm has f/4 and f/5.6 lenses as well. You are cherry picking your facts.
As far as DoF, that really is a red herring. There are so many ways to get a narrow DoF. Also, lenses, particularly fast lenses, don't work very well wide open. But I guess if you want blurry, wide open may even do that for the foreground too. And most of the photographers I know shoot at specific apertures and so at any given aperture a larger sensor will have less DoF than a smaller one. Please don't come back with the D800 will now have more DoF. Sensor size, aperture, object distance, and focal lengths are just variables you can arrange in anyway you want but won't prove any type of superiority to any system.
Quote: And the Pentax is four times the price of the Zeiss.
Yeah, if your pockets are deeeeeep and full of gold, just buy the 645D (and a tripod). But if you want to shoot mostly handheld and/or get the blurriest background, a D800 is a better choice.
Yes, the 645D cost more. Just as medium-format and large-format film is more expensive than 35mm film. But please don't imagine that somehow $3000 is cheap and the poor can now enjoy FF cameras. (BTW, I am far from "rich" in any way you can imagine. I make sacrifices for the tools I work with and am careful with my money. I am very fortunate to have what I have.)
Now, you probably don't realize this, but medium-format cameras can easily be handheld. Even cameras like a Pentax 67 can be handheld. I use my 645D handheld practically all the time. So in that regard there is no difference between the 645D and D800. BTW, you may not have heard, but the internet "experts" have declared that you cannot handhold the D800 and get sharp images--you "need" to put that on a tripod too if you want to "get the most" out of the sensor.