Hmmm... since I posted my question I've begun to believe that the d800e vs 645d is like the anthropogenic climate warming debate!
Those that are considering the d800e are "deniers" :evil:, in the sense that they are unwilling to acknowledge superior image IQ of the large 645d sensor + lenses (wink! wink!
). And that in a nutshell is what I need to figure out: Is there something really "magic" about the 645d sensor and lens combination that truly trumps the d800e + nikon glass?? I have done some price comparisons with simple lens kits - and from what I have been reading you absolutely do not need to buy the very best (most expensive nikon or zeiss) glass to fully utilize the d800e sensor for landscape photography. You need to shell out mega dollars if you are into bokeh (should be banned from photography!) and need the extra stop. It seems what you need with the d800e is a HEAVY tripod and MFD methodology. Anyways:
Pentax 645d $10,000
D-FA 55mm $1,000 or $500 for some other version?
FA 45-85mm $700
FA 120mm $900
total $12,600 ($12,100)
Nikon d800e $3300
Nikon AF-S 24-70mm $2000 (although I'd probably get the cheaper 24-120mm as reviews of this lens on the d800 are good)
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8G $200 (yes! the cheap guy!)
Nikon AF-S 85mm f/1.8G $500 (yes, not the more expensive 1.4 version)
Total $6,000
DIFFERENCE
~$6,000 for basic and a simple lens kit (maybe ~
$4,000 diff for a used kit?)
Forgetting the debate about lenses for the time being, the simple question becomes is there something about the Pentax 645d image IQ that is really worth $6000? I live once and at this point in my life I can afford the 645d - BUT I have to actually see, in a large print, that the 645d really is superior to the d800e. If I can see the "magic" of the 645d then I probably start hunting for a used version or maybe Pentax lowers their price (I can't imagine that the Nikon d800e hasn't significantly hurt 645d sales). So until I see some real world comparisons I'm going to sit on the sidelines.
Anyways, It is great to have choices!