45-85 fa

John Cox · 03-06-2013, 10:19 PM

How does the 45-85 stack up against some of the primes in it's range? I've pulled the trigger on a FA 75 2.8 but want something in the 45-55 range. I've heard bad things about the fa 45 2.8 and the D FA 55 2.8 is out of my budget. Before I look at manual focus glass is the 45-85 worth investing in?

Smolk · 03-07-2013, 12:40 AM

It certainly is, and I can confirm that it is better than the A 55mm and many say better than the 45mms or even the DFA 55mm. Regardless of the comparisons, it is simply a very good zoom, which helped change my view of zoom lenses, it is very usable, will not disappoint, but for me it is a tad heavy.

Medium FormatPro · 03-07-2013, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

I can confirm that it is better than the A 55mm and many say better than the 45mms or even the DFA 55mm

Eerrr... The FA 45-80 is strangely enough (considerably) faster focusing than the DFA 55mm; especially considerint that it's both a full frame variation and (worse) is a macro with a very long focusing range - in some cases exceeding two seconds.

Royce Howland · 03-07-2013, 07:32 AM

The FA 45-85mm is a fine lens, it's one of my most heavily used options for landscapes (critical sharpness with manual focus) and general walking around (convenience with accurate autofocus). I found it definitely better than the FA 45mm prime @ 45mm. And I had a new DFA 55mm but took it back; it wasn't there in the corners compared to the 45-85mm, especially for the money involved. The 45-85mm is generally good throughout the focal range. If I was to blue-sky things a bit, I'd wish the 45-85mm was a bit lighter perhaps, and a stop faster.

But other than that a good copy of the lens would be a fine addition to cover the standard focal range, in my opinion.

Don't forget to check the lens database here:
SMC Pentax-FA 645 45-85mm F4.5 Reviews - 645 Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

adelorenzo · 03-07-2013, 12:57 PM

45-85 is my favorite lens... or I guess it was, until I sent it to Pentax and they trashed it. But I will get another. I have never owned a 45 or 55 primt but I sold my 75mm FA after I got it.

donesteban · 03-07-2013, 01:13 PM

I have the 45-85 FA, and the 35 A, 55 SDM and the 75 FA.

When comparing, the 35mm is the best.
The 55mm and the 75mm are quite similar when stopped down to f/8 or f/11, very sharp to the corners, but not reaching the 35mm. The 45-85mm ist a little bit softer at these stops.
On the other hand, border sharpnes a bit more open is better on the 45-85mm, espacially when comparing to the 55mm SDM. The 55 SDM is compensating this weakness with good center performance fully open at f/2.8.

If you want a flexible lens with good quality, the 45-85mm is a good choice. If yu don't need AF, you can go fpr the old A version, too.
If you want the best picture quality that is affordable, get the 35 A, the latest version of the 67 55/4 and the adapter 67 to 645. Off course, no AF.

bull drinkwater · 03-24-2013, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by donesteban

I have the 45-85 FA, and the 35 A, 55 SDM and the 75 FA.

When comparing, the 35mm is the best.
The 55mm and the 75mm are quite similar when stopped down to f/8 or f/11, very sharp to the corners, but not reaching the 35mm. The 45-85mm ist a little bit softer at these stops.
On the other hand, border sharpnes a bit more open is better on the 45-85mm, espacially when comparing to the 55mm SDM. The 55 SDM is compensating this weakness with good center performance fully open at f/2.8.

If you want a flexible lens with good quality, the 45-85mm is a good choice. If yu don't need AF, you can go fpr the old A version, too.
If you want the best picture quality that is affordable, get the 35 A, the latest version of the 67 55/4 and the adapter 67 to 645. Off course, no AF.

they say the 45-85mm is better than the 45mm,i have both and can't see the diference. the 45-85mm requires a tripod. i like the 45mm and the 75mm for hand held shooting.

slau · 03-25-2013, 02:34 PM

All I can add is: the 45-85 zoom lens is one of the best 645 lenses I have used and I think it is as good as prime lenses within the range, if not better.

donesteban · 03-29-2013, 11:34 PM

I don't use the 45-85 on the 645D. The positive thing about using a zoom would be less lenses to carry around. It doesn't replace the 35mm, so I need this anyway. My 120mm Macro is not that sharp with the 645D at very distant objects like the landscape photography I do. So the original intention 35, 45-85, 120, 200 doesn't work. And when replacing the 120mm by the 150mm, I miss something in between. So from my current setup, the 45-85 would replace the 55 SDM and the 75mm only. But those are light lenses, the 75mm is very small. In total, they are not taking less space than the 45-85mm would. So I use 35/55/75/105/150/200 on the 645D.
I use the 45-85mm when taking photos with the 645N. There, the 120mm Macro is behaving a little bit better, and I normally don't need a lens with less than 45mm. 45-85/120 and maybe a 200mm if needed is a perfect and quite small set.

03-06-2013, 10:19 PM	#1
John Cox New Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 3	45-85 fa How does the 45-85 stack up against some of the primes in it's range? I've pulled the trigger on a FA 75 2.8 but want something in the 45-55 range. I've heard bad things about the fa 45 2.8 and the D FA 55 2.8 is out of my budget. Before I look at manual focus glass is the 45-85 worth investing in?

03-25-2013, 02:34 PM	#8
slau New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6	All I can add is: the 45-85 zoom lens is one of the best 645 lenses I have used and I think it is as good as prime lenses within the range, if not better. Last edited by slau; 04-01-2013 at 01:19 AM.

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03-07-2013, 12:40 AM	#2
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Rotterdam Photos: Albums Posts: 1,714	It certainly is, and I can confirm that it is better than the A 55mm and many say better than the 45mms or even the DFA 55mm. Regardless of the comparisons, it is simply a very good zoom, which helped change my view of zoom lenses, it is very usable, will not disappoint, but for me it is a tad heavy.

03-07-2013, 06:00 AM	#3
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by Smolk I can confirm that it is better than the A 55mm and many say better than the 45mms or even the DFA 55mm Eerrr... The FA 45-80 is strangely enough (considerably) faster focusing than the DFA 55mm; especially considerint that it's both a full frame variation and (worse) is a macro with a very long focusing range - in some cases exceeding two seconds.

03-07-2013, 07:32 AM	#4
Royce Howland Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 275	The FA 45-85mm is a fine lens, it's one of my most heavily used options for landscapes (critical sharpness with manual focus) and general walking around (convenience with accurate autofocus). I found it definitely better than the FA 45mm prime @ 45mm. And I had a new DFA 55mm but took it back; it wasn't there in the corners compared to the 45-85mm, especially for the money involved. The 45-85mm is generally good throughout the focal range. If I was to blue-sky things a bit, I'd wish the 45-85mm was a bit lighter perhaps, and a stop faster. But other than that a good copy of the lens would be a fine addition to cover the standard focal range, in my opinion. Don't forget to check the lens database here: SMC Pentax-FA 645 45-85mm F4.5 Reviews - 645 Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

03-07-2013, 12:57 PM	#5
adelorenzo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whitehorse, Yukon Posts: 171	45-85 is my favorite lens... or I guess it was, until I sent it to Pentax and they trashed it. But I will get another. I have never owned a 45 or 55 primt but I sold my 75mm FA after I got it.

03-07-2013, 01:13 PM	#6
donesteban Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 124	I have the 45-85 FA, and the 35 A, 55 SDM and the 75 FA. When comparing, the 35mm is the best. The 55mm and the 75mm are quite similar when stopped down to f/8 or f/11, very sharp to the corners, but not reaching the 35mm. The 45-85mm ist a little bit softer at these stops. On the other hand, border sharpnes a bit more open is better on the 45-85mm, espacially when comparing to the 55mm SDM. The 55 SDM is compensating this weakness with good center performance fully open at f/2.8. If you want a flexible lens with good quality, the 45-85mm is a good choice. If yu don't need AF, you can go fpr the old A version, too. If you want the best picture quality that is affordable, get the 35 A, the latest version of the 67 55/4 and the adapter 67 to 645. Off course, no AF.

03-24-2013, 10:03 PM	#7
bull drinkwater Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: pontiac mi. Posts: 392	Originally posted by donesteban I have the 45-85 FA, and the 35 A, 55 SDM and the 75 FA. When comparing, the 35mm is the best. The 55mm and the 75mm are quite similar when stopped down to f/8 or f/11, very sharp to the corners, but not reaching the 35mm. The 45-85mm ist a little bit softer at these stops. On the other hand, border sharpnes a bit more open is better on the 45-85mm, espacially when comparing to the 55mm SDM. The 55 SDM is compensating this weakness with good center performance fully open at f/2.8. If you want a flexible lens with good quality, the 45-85mm is a good choice. If yu don't need AF, you can go fpr the old A version, too. If you want the best picture quality that is affordable, get the 35 A, the latest version of the 67 55/4 and the adapter 67 to 645. Off course, no AF. they say the 45-85mm is better than the 45mm,i have both and can't see the diference. the 45-85mm requires a tripod. i like the 45mm and the 75mm for hand held shooting.

03-29-2013, 11:34 PM	#9
donesteban Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 124	I don't use the 45-85 on the 645D. The positive thing about using a zoom would be less lenses to carry around. It doesn't replace the 35mm, so I need this anyway. My 120mm Macro is not that sharp with the 645D at very distant objects like the landscape photography I do. So the original intention 35, 45-85, 120, 200 doesn't work. And when replacing the 120mm by the 150mm, I miss something in between. So from my current setup, the 45-85 would replace the 55 SDM and the 75mm only. But those are light lenses, the 75mm is very small. In total, they are not taking less space than the 45-85mm would. So I use 35/55/75/105/150/200 on the 645D. I use the 45-85mm when taking photos with the 645N. There, the 120mm Macro is behaving a little bit better, and I normally don't need a lens with less than 45mm. 45-85/120 and maybe a 200mm if needed is a perfect and quite small set.

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