645D- how low will it go? ...

normhead · 09-13-2013, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by revdocjim

Today I saw a used 645D in excellent condition for 477,750 yen, which is about US$4,800.

Hmmmm... I wonder if they'd take $4000
Sooner or later I'll get one.

tuco · 09-13-2013, 08:03 AM

Did you get a new computer, Norm? A while back you were saying the file size of the D600 were too large and unnecessarily slowed your computer down.

normhead · 09-13-2013, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by tuco

Did you get a new computer, Norm? A while back you were saying the file size of the D600 were too large and unnecessarily slowed your computer down.

I would never take the number of shots with a 645D I would with a K-5 or even a D600, just because of the size thing. IN fact, I've picked up an SD2 Merrill which has D600 IQ (according to IR) with a 14.5 MP file. But once again, the optimum picture taken with it is lights out, but what you have to do to get that optimum picture is somewhat inconvenient. I resigned myself to the fact that when a 24MP APS-c comes out, I'm going to have to bite the bullet. But ti's still D800 or nothing for me if I ever decide to go FF. For me, $4000 for a 645D for which I already have a couple manual lenses, or $3000 for a lensless D800, is almost the same money... the only problem being so far I haven't seen a 645D for $4000.

tuco · 09-13-2013, 08:16 AM

I see. $4K for a 645D in good shape would rock.

revdocjim · 09-13-2013, 06:31 PM

It at the bottom of this page. But that was their inventory as of yesterday. I have no idea if it is still there today. I've been calling them every morning and visiting frequently, waiting for a nice 76ii to come in but haven't really been following other items.

This store does not barter with customers, so that is definitely their final price.

normhead · 09-15-2013, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by revdocjim

It at the bottom of this page. But that was their inventory as of yesterday. I have no idea if it is still there today. I've been calling them every morning and visiting frequently, waiting for a nice 76ii to come in but haven't really been following other items.

This store does not barter with customers, so that is definitely their final price.

What I really need is an updated 645D to come put and a few people selling the old one to help finance the new... although whether or not the camera will ever sell for $4000 before it's 10 years old is another issue.

atlnq9 · 09-15-2013, 08:10 AM

Going used for about 5k. Will hit 4k in a year used. KEH has a used one in EX+ for 5.6k...

normhead · 09-15-2013, 08:19 AM

Which begs the question, what comes first, a Pentax FF or the 645D drops to 4K?

tclausen · 09-15-2013, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by tuco

I see. $4K for a 645D in good shape would rock.

Honestly, I do not give a furry rat's behind about a "FF" 35mm DSLR. I'd love a 645 "FF", and consider that a very very worthy companion to a Pentax APS-C, offering a very very worthy difference from APS-C. Get it in for $4K, and I'd pre-order in a heartbeat. Get an "orthodox" design in, as in K-01 (mirrorless, ...), and I'll be all over it

derAngler · 09-15-2013, 01:50 PM

In Germany a used Pentax 645D sells for around 4000-4500 Euro now. I even saw one beeing sold for 3800 Euro. That is nearly 50% cheaper than a new one.

normhead · 09-15-2013, 01:52 PM

I'm starting to think I should be keeping some money in the bank account, or maybe look for some more 645 lenses.

revdocjim · 09-15-2013, 04:00 PM

Well, I wish I could say I was in the market, but its not even close for me... But in the meantime I thoroughly love my 645n and full kit of MF prime lenses. I am also about to upgrade from the P67 to the P67ii and I love that kit too!
Of course I can enjoy all of those 645 and 67 lenses on my digital back as well (Sony NEX7) thanks to the adapters!

**RobA_Oz** · 09-15-2013, 04:13 PM

If we're into idle speculation, I mused in another thread about the 645D successor being a FF-MF, preferably with replaceable viewfinders, which would head off the purported entries from Canon and Nikon, and nudge the Hasselblad and Phase One offerings along a bit. Keeping the present 645D as a low-cost entry to the format would bring in more users, although the present 645D lens plans would have to change (unless they do provide coverage for the complete 6 x 4.5cm frame, of course).

The larger, more ponderous MF cameras encourage a more considered approach to subjects, and making them more accessible to a greater number of photographers would be a boon to the whole movement, especially if it reduces the opportunity for gearheads to whinge about equipment.

normhead · 09-15-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

If we're into idle speculation, I mused in another thread about the 645D successor being a FF-MF, preferably with replaceable viewfinders, which would head off the purported entries from Canon and Nikon, and nudge the Hasselblad and Phase One offerings along a bit. Keeping the present 645D as a low-cost entry to the format would bring in more users, although the present 645D lens plans would have to change (unless they do provide coverage for the complete 6 x 4.5cm frame, of course).

The larger, more ponderous MF cameras encourage a more considered approach to subjects, and making them more accessible to a greater number of photographers would be a boon to the whole movement, especially if it reduces the opportunity for gearheads to whinge about equipment.

Ya, I hate all that whinge-ing

Bigvern1263 · 09-15-2013, 08:47 PM

Well recently the Aus distributor had 2 going for around the $5K mark, they were demo stock, in great condition with the 55mm, a colleague of mine bought one, the images that come off mine are quite stunning and i print them big...thats why i bought it and it has never disappointed, its heading to Banff in 2 weeks with me in tow... :-) ;-) , if you want and can afford go for it... never look back.. :-)

09-13-2013, 08:10 AM	#18
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by tuco Did you get a new computer, Norm? A while back you were saying the file size of the D600 were too large and unnecessarily slowed your computer down. I would never take the number of shots with a 645D I would with a K-5 or even a D600, just because of the size thing. IN fact, I've picked up an SD2 Merrill which has D600 IQ (according to IR) with a 14.5 MP file. But once again, the optimum picture taken with it is lights out, but what you have to do to get that optimum picture is somewhat inconvenient. I resigned myself to the fact that when a 24MP APS-c comes out, I'm going to have to bite the bullet. But ti's still D800 or nothing for me if I ever decide to go FF. For me, $4000 for a 645D for which I already have a couple manual lenses, or $3000 for a lensless D800, is almost the same money... the only problem being so far I haven't seen a 645D for $4000. Last edited by normhead; 09-13-2013 at 08:21 AM.

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09-13-2013, 07:39 AM	#16
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by revdocjim Today I saw a used 645D in excellent condition for 477,750 yen, which is about US$4,800. Hmmmm... I wonder if they'd take $4000 Sooner or later I'll get one.

09-13-2013, 08:03 AM	#17
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,025	Did you get a new computer, Norm? A while back you were saying the file size of the D600 were too large and unnecessarily slowed your computer down.

09-13-2013, 08:16 AM	#19
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,025	I see. $4K for a 645D in good shape would rock.

09-13-2013, 06:31 PM	#20
revdocjim Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mt. Akagi, Gunma Prefecture Posts: 374	It at the bottom of this page. But that was their inventory as of yesterday. I have no idea if it is still there today. I've been calling them every morning and visiting frequently, waiting for a nice 76ii to come in but haven't really been following other items. This store does not barter with customers, so that is definitely their final price.

09-15-2013, 06:49 AM	#21
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by revdocjim It at the bottom of this page. But that was their inventory as of yesterday. I have no idea if it is still there today. I've been calling them every morning and visiting frequently, waiting for a nice 76ii to come in but haven't really been following other items. This store does not barter with customers, so that is definitely their final price. What I really need is an updated 645D to come put and a few people selling the old one to help finance the new... although whether or not the camera will ever sell for $4000 before it's 10 years old is another issue.

09-15-2013, 08:10 AM	#22
atlnq9 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Arizona Photos: Albums Posts: 330	Going used for about 5k. Will hit 4k in a year used. KEH has a used one in EX+ for 5.6k...

09-15-2013, 08:19 AM	#23
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Which begs the question, what comes first, a Pentax FF or the 645D drops to 4K?

09-15-2013, 08:33 AM	#24
tclausen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,397	Originally posted by tuco I see. $4K for a 645D in good shape would rock. Honestly, I do not give a furry rat's behind about a "FF" 35mm DSLR. I'd love a 645 "FF", and consider that a very very worthy companion to a Pentax APS-C, offering a very very worthy difference from APS-C. Get it in for $4K, and I'd pre-order in a heartbeat. Get an "orthodox" design in, as in K-01 (mirrorless, ...), and I'll be all over it

09-15-2013, 01:50 PM	#25
derAngler Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 72	In Germany a used Pentax 645D sells for around 4000-4500 Euro now. I even saw one beeing sold for 3800 Euro. That is nearly 50% cheaper than a new one.

09-15-2013, 01:52 PM	#26
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	I'm starting to think I should be keeping some money in the bank account, or maybe look for some more 645 lenses.

09-15-2013, 04:00 PM	#27
revdocjim Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mt. Akagi, Gunma Prefecture Posts: 374	Well, I wish I could say I was in the market, but its not even close for me... But in the meantime I thoroughly love my 645n and full kit of MF prime lenses. I am also about to upgrade from the P67 to the P67ii and I love that kit too! Of course I can enjoy all of those 645 and 67 lenses on my digital back as well (Sony NEX7) thanks to the adapters!

09-15-2013, 04:13 PM	#28
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	If we're into idle speculation, I mused in another thread about the 645D successor being a FF-MF, preferably with replaceable viewfinders, which would head off the purported entries from Canon and Nikon, and nudge the Hasselblad and Phase One offerings along a bit. Keeping the present 645D as a low-cost entry to the format would bring in more users, although the present 645D lens plans would have to change (unless they do provide coverage for the complete 6 x 4.5cm frame, of course). The larger, more ponderous MF cameras encourage a more considered approach to subjects, and making them more accessible to a greater number of photographers would be a boon to the whole movement, especially if it reduces the opportunity for gearheads to whinge about equipment.

09-15-2013, 07:27 PM	#29
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by RobA_Oz If we're into idle speculation, I mused in another thread about the 645D successor being a FF-MF, preferably with replaceable viewfinders, which would head off the purported entries from Canon and Nikon, and nudge the Hasselblad and Phase One offerings along a bit. Keeping the present 645D as a low-cost entry to the format would bring in more users, although the present 645D lens plans would have to change (unless they do provide coverage for the complete 6 x 4.5cm frame, of course). The larger, more ponderous MF cameras encourage a more considered approach to subjects, and making them more accessible to a greater number of photographers would be a boon to the whole movement, especially if it reduces the opportunity for gearheads to whinge about equipment. Ya, I hate all that whinge-ing

09-15-2013, 08:47 PM	#30
Bigvern1263 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: QLD 4165 Photos: Albums Posts: 67	Well recently the Aus distributor had 2 going for around the $5K mark, they were demo stock, in great condition with the 55mm, a colleague of mine bought one, the images that come off mine are quite stunning and i print them big...thats why i bought it and it has never disappointed, its heading to Banff in 2 weeks with me in tow... :-) ;-) , if you want and can afford go for it... never look back.. :-)