Who else is excited about the 645D 2014?

tuco · 02-15-2014, 12:45 PM

Ricoh is large enough to put some serious money into MFD and offer a range of MFD options. That, a wide array of modern lenses, presents in camera stores and competitive pricing and I think they could do well in that segment.

bull drinkwater · 02-20-2014, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by DSims

I certainly am, but I'm not in the market to buy one.

I think it really puts Pentax in a great position, to have the same sensor as Phase One and Hasselblad.

If I ever need one I can rent it - and if I ever really need one, then I'd buy it.

I also think Pentax needs to release a FF (135 format) in order to elevate both it and the 645D 2014. By not having a gap between the 645D and K-3 etc. it will make Pentax (rightly) appear as a premium choice.

no me, it's like coffee in a restaurant, you get the crem and sugar just right and the waitress comes along and messes it up. I've got my lenses, flash unit, lens support, teleconverters, and all my other goodies. I have less than 1000 shots. I hope that the new model has some changes that I thought of, but, mine does enough of what I want to last me another 30 yrs. after that i'll be gone .

noVICE · 03-06-2014, 07:03 PM

I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well.

On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched?

**Pål Jensen** · 03-07-2014, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by noVICE

I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well.

On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched?

The Pentax 645 system has optical SR. The new wide angle zoom will have it.

**Rondec** · 03-07-2014, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by noVICE

I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well.

On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched?

Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up.

Sandy Hancock · 03-07-2014, 04:15 AM

I'm as excited as I would be if Subaru made a competitor to the Bugatti Veyron.
It's awesome the guys who make my WR-X can match it with the big boys, but I'll never buy one.

Ryan Tischer · 03-08-2014, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up.

Only the brand new lenses are expensive, the used 645 are almost all great lenses at very reasonable prices. I think the 645D has already dropped to around that price. I agree that the 645D is not an all around great camera for all applications, as I found when trying to shoot some wildlife, but it's sure great for landscapes.

2351HD · 03-08-2014, 08:09 PM

Ryan they are expensive, but boy are they good.

I have to new 90mm and it's fantastic. I used the 25mm DFA on a workshop 2 weeks ago and it's awesome, a little CA but it cleans up so easily in post.

I actually like to 55 too, no real complaints, maybe a bit better overall contrast but it's nice and sharp.

I am waiting for the new wide angle zoom before making the decision to get it though.

Ryan Tischer · 03-09-2014, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by 2351HD

Ryan they are expensive, but boy are they good.

I have to new 90mm and it's fantastic. I used the 25mm DFA on a workshop 2 weeks ago and it's awesome, a little CA but it cleans up so easily in post.

I actually like to 55 too, no real complaints, maybe a bit better overall contrast but it's nice and sharp.

I am waiting for the new wide angle zoom before making the decision to get it though.

I have the 25mm D FA and think it's a great lens. I'll consider the wide angle zoom when it comes out as well!

itshimitis · 03-10-2014, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up.

In Japan, you can get the 645D brand new for $5850 in BIC camera (604,000YN) and get 5% tax back too....I was in the store yesterday...

**Fontan** · 03-13-2014, 07:39 PM

Without seeing it and how much it costs, I have no idea. All I know is that I am fine with my D, and I don't know why it needs improvement, really.

03-06-2014, 07:03 PM	#18
noVICE Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 164	I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well. On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched? Last edited by noVICE; 03-06-2014 at 07:12 PM.

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02-15-2014, 12:45 PM	#16
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,029	Ricoh is large enough to put some serious money into MFD and offer a range of MFD options. That, a wide array of modern lenses, presents in camera stores and competitive pricing and I think they could do well in that segment.

02-20-2014, 05:13 PM	#17
bull drinkwater Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: pontiac mi. Posts: 392	Originally posted by DSims I certainly am, but I'm not in the market to buy one. I think it really puts Pentax in a great position, to have the same sensor as Phase One and Hasselblad. If I ever need one I can rent it - and if I ever really need one, then I'd buy it. I also think Pentax needs to release a FF (135 format) in order to elevate both it and the 645D 2014. By not having a gap between the 645D and K-3 etc. it will make Pentax (rightly) appear as a premium choice. no me, it's like coffee in a restaurant, you get the crem and sugar just right and the waitress comes along and messes it up. I've got my lenses, flash unit, lens support, teleconverters, and all my other goodies. I have less than 1000 shots. I hope that the new model has some changes that I thought of, but, mine does enough of what I want to last me another 30 yrs. after that i'll be gone .

03-07-2014, 03:39 AM	#19
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by noVICE I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well. On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched? The Pentax 645 system has optical SR. The new wide angle zoom will have it.

03-07-2014, 04:13 AM	#20
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by noVICE I am now quite interested in MF. I came across a review of the D4 vs K5IIs and the presenter made some valid points for Pentax to focus more on MF. I am only interested in still photography so I hope that Ricoh makes the newer MF cameras better suited to being handheld and used outside of a studio. I hope that future versions have better ISO performance, faster file handling and built in shake reduction. Maybe (if possible) an adapter for the FA lenses would be nice as well. On a side note I have been thinking about Pentax's position and I am now thinking that going into FF is a misstep. Why compete directly with Canikon when you can move into a more advanced market like MF. The scary thing for Canikon is if Ricoh manages to make a MF with better specs as I mentioned above and releases it for $6500. Theoretical, yes...but maybe it is not too far fetched? Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up.

03-07-2014, 04:15 AM	#21
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	I'm as excited as I would be if Subaru made a competitor to the Bugatti Veyron. It's awesome the guys who make my WR-X can match it with the big boys, but I'll never buy one.

03-08-2014, 09:54 AM	#22
Ryan Tischer Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Photos: Albums Posts: 458	Originally posted by Rondec Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up. Only the brand new lenses are expensive, the used 645 are almost all great lenses at very reasonable prices. I think the 645D has already dropped to around that price. I agree that the 645D is not an all around great camera for all applications, as I found when trying to shoot some wildlife, but it's sure great for landscapes.

03-08-2014, 08:09 PM	#23
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750 Original Poster	Ryan they are expensive, but boy are they good. I have to new 90mm and it's fantastic. I used the 25mm DFA on a workshop 2 weeks ago and it's awesome, a little CA but it cleans up so easily in post. I actually like to 55 too, no real complaints, maybe a bit better overall contrast but it's nice and sharp. I am waiting for the new wide angle zoom before making the decision to get it though.

03-09-2014, 08:35 AM	#24
Ryan Tischer Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Photos: Albums Posts: 458	Originally posted by 2351HD Ryan they are expensive, but boy are they good. I have to new 90mm and it's fantastic. I used the 25mm DFA on a workshop 2 weeks ago and it's awesome, a little CA but it cleans up so easily in post. I actually like to 55 too, no real complaints, maybe a bit better overall contrast but it's nice and sharp. I am waiting for the new wide angle zoom before making the decision to get it though. I have the 25mm D FA and think it's a great lens. I'll consider the wide angle zoom when it comes out as well!

03-10-2014, 09:08 AM	#25
itshimitis Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: All over the place Posts: 3,535	Originally posted by Rondec Medium format has been and will continue to be a niche market. Pentax isn't releasing a 6500 dollar medium format camera, although maybe the 645D will drop to that on clearance. Even if it did, the cost of the lenses is prohibitive. These aren't do everything cameras, anyway, they have a few things they do extremely well and a lot of things that they don't do so well. I just don't see Pentax taking a big bite out of the full frame market with even an awesome medium format line-up. In Japan, you can get the 645D brand new for $5850 in BIC camera (604,000YN) and get 5% tax back too....I was in the store yesterday...

03-13-2014, 07:39 PM	#26
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Without seeing it and how much it costs, I have no idea. All I know is that I am fine with my D, and I don't know why it needs improvement, really.