Originally posted by tuco Can you elaborate. Have you shot more than 50 sheets on that large format and shot more than 50 rolls of film on those 645s?
Are you going to discuss what I've thrown out there as information or is this going to be about me? You're changing the topic. I was responding to the quote above, where I got the condescending " I know so much more than you" treatment, as if i was ignorant. My answer is, I'm not. I'm simply not willing to get into a pissing match about who has done what, when it means less than nothing.
Talking about old experiences is often something better done over a beer.
But if you have something to add based on your knowledge of MF and LF, I'd be happy to hear it, and with either will be happy to seriously consider your opinions, as I always do.
( It's not relevant, but probably less than 500 exposures of sheet film, but , that's misleading because when you use that kind of film, and with the kinds of things I was doing and the studio I was working in, it can take two hours to set up a shot. So the best answer is 240 hours studio time with the 8x10, and 240 hours darkroom time working on large format images, not to mention retouching class (20 hours) and the 120 hours of lectures time that preceded the 240 hours in the studio. That's just commercial. There was a portrait a week in the portraiture class, one sitting a week for 35 weeks, god that's at least 120 8x10s right there.We did portfolios for the theatre students, so, head shot, half body sitting, full body sitting and full body front and back standing.) Is that enough? Do I pass?, oh and if you want to know my whole life story, I didn't go back for second year.
I was also on student council, helped set up the funding and construction of a 8 story 400 unit student co-op residence, and was known as "the kid", because at Ryerson most of the students were university graduates learning a useful skill, where as i was 17 years old straight out of high school. ( I couldn't go out with the guys for a beer after class, that should have been part of the curriculum for pete's sake. Although I did pick up a lot of what was discussed the next day,) At the time it was the only accredited full time photography program in Canada.
I had to approached 21-24 year old women to ask if I could take their portraits. I was an ext extemely immature 17 year old, it terrified me. I lost sleep at night over it.
I got in with a portfolio taken with my dad's 6x6 twin lens reflex, and developed in the darkroom, he had set up in our basement. I started working with him when I was six years old, (1954) and I still remember the first time he let me look down throughout the waste level viewfinder, focus and release the shutter. My shots were thought to be quite artistic, mostly because they were taken from such a low angle (because I was 6 years old, shooting with a waste level finder. To do eye level portraits I had to stand on a ladder, or more often, a picnic table.) My goodness, I actually shot my first couple of rolls of MF film (120) before I was 7. I shot with his camera (MF) from the time I was 7 until i was 17), when I got a Pentax SV 35mm with a light meter, for getting accepted into Ryerson Polytech.I would have had a Spotmatic, but I had to buy a light meter for studio class anyway so ,my parents felt getting one in camera would have been wasteful and redundant. It was redundant too, my dad taught me to estimate exposure without a light meter, so I really didn't need one/ I had the "light meter in your brain" system. Beat that.
At this point I usually start telling stories.... you, know the beer in the developer, the hopeless sketching assignment, the various lenses I converted into enlarger lenses with cardboard cutouts, my buddies underwater rig, .how my friends hated my "artistic vision" and often complained bitterly about the same pictures that got me into Ryerson.. taking my 8x10 gear on the subway to photograph an old church (keeping your parallel lines parallel assignment with full tilt shift mode.. I think I still have a contact print of that church somewhere, but I'd have to shrink it to post it here.
I'm leaving out 15 years of teaching HS photography, bit of modelling, the three times I was published, my favourite picture of all time, a portrait I took of my dad, for the cover of his auto-biography, about 5 years before his death.
There, do I get my beer?)
PS... is that elaborate enough?
I bet you never ask me to elaborate again.