Originally posted by atlnq9 It is quite simple. The life of a 645D is 50,000 photos before it needs a simple shutter replacement. So what is the cost to take 50,000 photos with a 67? You are saying now that it is $2/picture based on you numbers (I used to develop my own slides...) so that is $100,000 for the same number of photos. Back when I had a 67 and 645n they were never going to last more than 8-10yrs. Just not built to a robustness to handle it. Mine was nearly dead when I retired it. Maybe I am just rougher on my gear because I have it bouncing around in Land Rovers, Land Cruisers, and Jeeps all over the world. Use it in sandy, dusty environments. Go through countless airport transits.
I am not forgetting the cost of new lenses. Old lenses are perfectly usable and served me well for over 3yrs with the 645D. But you can add in a lot of new lenses at 5k each for the price difference. At $1100/yr you spend on film and processing you could get a 10yr loan to cover the 645Z and still be paying the same as you do now on film so it would be no difference to your pocket book (a bit more if you want new lenses...). At the end you would still have 45,000 photos left to take for free. At such a low use rate the 645's will easily last for many years. The need to constantly upgrade digital cameras is something the manufactures have driven us into thinking we have to do all the time but there is no need to, you still find *ist D's up to K10D's and 20Ds floating around...
I will certainly go through 2 or 3 more bodies but that is because I take ~5k photos a year and my gear sees rough use...
I think you missed this part of the post as well. Taking only 500 photos a year makes it harder for you to justify it but the economics are still very good. Notice I also speak about personal preference which you allude to...
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The big question: just how many of those thousands and thousands of photographs actually are printed, framed and sold? ~5,000 photos a year!!? Come on! Yes, I do want to know how many are printed, framed and sold. What are you hitting up on, steroids!?
Nice to know the 645Z is built for 50,000 shutter actuations. I wonder how that stacks up against my EOS 1N with 143,428 (June test)... and still going... 50,000 is a significantly small number for a camera wearing a price tag of many thousands...
A few points. My photographic consumption is the same as Gofour's: a roll of 120 each week (I have run through 2/120 in my pinhole camera as of last week), and with some exceptions (not the last several rolls) every single image is printed and framed, never dumped into a PC blackhole to be dredged up once in a blue moon. That is
not photography! There is absolutely nothing "hard to justify" in shooting 500 images a year with the 67 system. Especially if we are speaking of people long-qualified as photographers and artists who by dint of their profession and training, can recoup their investment in real money terms. A repeating theme is that people are talking, talking, talking .... endlessly!, about irrelevant, superfluous aspects of
a camera rather than showing a proven metric in foundation photographic and image conceptualisation skills. Nauseating.
By the way, my 67 is more than 20 years old, as are the lenses, probably older (as if I care). The initial cost of the system has been recouped several times over (cleared with just one print sale, actually, and we are talking in thousands, not a few dollars). I have absolutely no use for fancy technology that purports to make me a better photographer, because I am better educated than that!