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09-23-2014, 04:20 PM   #1
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645 Tilt Shift

I spoke with Schneider Rep (Kevin in NYC) and asked why there is no Schneider 120MM Tilt Shift lens for the Pentax 645 system , as there is one for Mamiya/Leaf and Leica. He said no one had asked. So, lets call and email Schneider in the USA and Europe until we get one. Many times on this forum people ask why we don't have tilt shift already. So I know there is interest. Pentax has never provided one, in film or digital days. ( I am excluding the P67 75MM shift, as it was only shift.) I suggest we call write and email Schneider until we get one.

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This is a very good Idea. Do you have any contact details?
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If you email sales@schneideroptics.com they will get you to the right people for your region.
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2012 (or was it 2010?) on photokina they thought the Pentax 645D was only a nerd toy.
When I asked they gave me the advice to buy a professional camera (i. e. Mamiya... )
I hope things have changed.

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It is a nerd toy. Thats why I want a nerdy schneider 120mm tilt shift lens!!! I didn't say I wanted an assault rifle or a truck for mud whompin'………...
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If you want to learn about tilt/swing, shift etc, get into large format where it has a meaningful, specific application. In smaller formats it is quite pointless.
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Thanks for the suggestion, 672. I have e-mailed them.

Would be great if they made a 35mm as well. But the 120 for Pentax would be great already.
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LOL, I don't think the OP wants to "learn" about T/S. I think he actually wants to use it. It has plenty of application regardless of format.

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I have seen great results from the 50mm Schneider tilt shift by an Australian Panormama Photographer. I highly recommend you check out his work - http://500px.com/tpoulton001

Does anyone have examples of a 120 tilt shift in action?
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And while we're all at it, how about sending Metabones an email about getting a Speed Booster too. I'm sure you're all like me and want to get a wider view out of my 35mm.
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I did check with Schneider and they e-mailed me back, saying that they looked into the option, but that the flange focal distance was 5mm less than with Mamiya and that they had to remove the shift for the lens to fit on the Pentax 645D or Z. They felt that the lens was too expense to be offered as a shift version only, and I'd tentatively agree with them as the tilt would have been the attractive option for the 120mm focal length, especially in combination with macro. I didn't ask about the 50mm Super-Angulon, but some of those macro lenses might work within a custom design set-up (e.g. Zoerk).

It is something Pentax could/should do something about. Perhaps more urgent than updating some of those zooms. Both a wide angle shift lens, ideally 35mm, and a macro/tilt lens in the 120mm range.

I always had been hoping for a longer focal length macro lens and I finally got around mounting my 165mm Ultra Micro Nikkor on the 645D in a stable fashion. The set-up yields amazing macro images with reasonable working distance. Just thought I'd mention.

But a wide angle shift would still be something to get me excited.

Thanks, 672, for bringing the issue up on this forum.

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Sending an e-mail is one thing, putting money on the table another. There is a reason why there is no T/S lens for Pentax available. If you really miss such lens, get another camera/back.
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Thanks for all the positive responses and action regarding this issue! I do agree that a 50 or 35mm T/S would be more useful for the type of pictures I like to take. For now it seems that the Zoerk T/S adaptor with P67 glass is the best alternative, although I have not seen this set up in person.
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QuoteOriginally posted by 672 Quote
I spoke with Schneider Rep (Kevin in NYC) and asked why there is no Schneider 120MM Tilt Shift lens for the Pentax 645 system , as there is one for Mamiya/Leaf and Leica. He said no one had asked.........
This may be one side of the coin.

The other is Schneider Kreuznach is building lenses for Leica and PO/Mamiya.
May be there is a excluding clause not to market these lenses for a third system.
Never the less: asking for a P645 T/S lens at Schneider is a good idea.
The development costs for a P645 version might be not so high
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Zork Adapter

I believe the Zork tilt-shift adapter for using P67 lenses on a P645 is limited to lenses with focal lengths greater than 120 mm or so. The shift only Zork adapter will work with P67 lenses 45mm and greater.
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