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05-10-2015, 11:36 PM   #1
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wedding bridal portrait lenses

hi guys

just wondering if some of you experienced guys can chip in with some lens recommendations.

For shooting weddings, with my canon gear I do a lot of bridal portraits, and boudoir sort of shooting indoors. In Canon land I mostly used a 24-70, a 50/1.2 and a 85/1.2

Basically a girl in a room with a fairly low depth of field.

I have a 55/2.8 and a 150/2.8. I have a older 120/4 macro but it's not the af model.

The 55 is a bit wide and the 150 is obviously too long for this sort of indoor stuff.

Wondering if you guys can recommend anything. I'm guessing the 90mm macro but before I go and lay down $5k on one wanted to see if there were any alternatives as its a very pricey piece of glass - makes the canon L glass look cheap

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Oops wrong forum, I have no experience of digital MF.

However, wouldn't a macro be a bit too sharp for your stated purpose?
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Oops wrong forum, I have no experience of digital MF.

However, wouldn't a macro be a bit too sharp for your stated purpose?
Yes, but not sure what other option there is. I'd like a rough equivalent to the canon 85/1.2 and/or 50/1.2

(I know 1.2 doesn't exist in 645)
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The images I have seen from the 90 macro are incredible. It is much easier to soften a sharp image than the converse.
If I won the lottery I reckon I could live my life out with the 25, 55 and 90 and die a happy man. I just need a 645z first

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I'm afraid you're in the same boat a few of us are in as well, the 150mm really knocks out the background, but is also closer to the 135/2 rather than the 85L. The 90mm seems like it would be pretty close, but I would have liked it to be a stop faster, even if it came at the cost of macro focus.

Leica built a 100mm f/2 for their camera only just recently, so I'm guessing fast portrait glass isn't a high priority on enough people's lists. Pentax still wants to out two more zooms before tackling anything else, so we have plenty of time for petitioning.

Assuming manual focus is on the table, you can always adapt the 6x7 105mm f/2.4 lens, but its bokeh just isn't smooth enough for my tastes. YMMV.

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I just have gotten the 90 with no experience with portraits as yet. I will say that it focuses very fast and the images a super sharp as would be expected of a new "modern" lens in this price range. Got mine in Japan. Theoretically used. It seems it was never used and the price was about 35% less than new price in the US. Maybe a rare find, not sure.
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I just have gotten the 90 with no experience with portraits as yet. I will say that it focuses very fast and the images a super sharp as would be expected of a new "modern" lens in this price range. Got mine in Japan. Theoretically used. It seems it was never used and the price was about 35% less than new price in the US. Maybe a rare find, not sure.
Theres one in japan on ebay for $3500 usd at moment. I'm sorely tempted.
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The 67 2.4/105mm lens comes closest on the 645D/Z crop to a 85mm lens on FF 35mm cameras. You would need the 67>645 adapter.
For portraits it does do great things, but the native 90mm is, from what I've seen online, a much more modern lens, and one whose qualities stand out even on the web.
That said, the 105mm + adapter is a cheap, manual alternative. I'd try. If you don't like it, you can sell the lens again without much loss, if any.


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I would also consider the FA 75mm/2.8.
It's pretty cheap, bright and very sharp (sharper than my FA 120mm Macro) with good bokeh.
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You could easily get the 55/2.8 for reportage coverage, and use both the 75/2.8 FA and 67 105/2.4 for your tighter work, considering the low-low cost of them used.. Don't let their age dissuade you, they're top quality lenses with character. If you want to go absolute minimal DoF, adapt the Hasselblad 110mm f2 Planar. It's a beauty!
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hey guys with the 67 adapter, i know it'd be manual focus & manual aperture ring but do you get metering in the camera?

EDIT - don't worry - google

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another vote for the 67 105/2.4 for some shallow DOF portrait work. yes, you get stop down metering
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75mm, 150mm no question. I don't like the 120mm as it's slow for my style of shooting.
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The 150mm is perfect for portraits. The 120 macro would work better in tight spaces, but Pentax doesn't have anything "portrait" in that focal length.

I even find the perspective of the legendary 110mm Planar on the Rolleiflex Hy6 a little on the short side. Of course one could always crop, but why then MF? The 90 is everything but a portrait lens, and very sharp. An awkward focal length as a whole. There was a 120mm medium format Petzval from a Kickstarter project, called Petzvar, which is very pleasing. I also like the 200mm FA, but that is obviously too long for cramped spaces.

I have hacked a number of projection lenses in the 110-145mm range onto my Pentax 645Z, and they work very well for portraits. They are a little on the sharp side when it comes to portrait lenses, require manual focus, and depth of field is very narrow, but not bad at all.
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The 150mm is perfect for portraits. The 120 macro would work better in tight spaces, but Pentax doesn't have anything "portrait" in that focal length.

I even find the perspective of the legendary 110mm Planar on the Rolleiflex Hy6 a little on the short side. Of course one could always crop, but why then MF? The 90 is everything but a portrait lens, and very sharp. An awkward focal length as a whole. There was a 120mm medium format Petzval from a Kickstarter project, called Petzvar, which is very pleasing. I also like the 200mm FA, but that is obviously too long for cramped spaces.

I have hacked a number of projection lenses in the 110-145mm range onto my Pentax 645Z, and they work very well for portraits. They are a little on the sharp side when it comes to portrait lenses, require manual focus, and depth of field is very narrow, but not bad at all.
If I'm outdoors, no problem using the 150 - I already have, and it is wonderful.

So good in fact that I'm going to sell my Canon 200mm f2 from my 35mm based setup.

But the question is indoors. I'm standing in a room, with a bride sitting on bed / standing by window etc.

The 150 is too long.

The 55 is a great lens, but is a bit short to really kill the dof.

I think the 120 would be a touch long still.

So it really leaves the 75 and 90 and 105. The 75 is again a bit close to the 55. The 90 fits neatly halfway at a huge cost. The 105 is manual focus which I'm ok with at a fashion shoot but not at a wedding where I'm in a hurry.

So it prob leaves the 90. I just need to get over the price and get it
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