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10-07-2015, 07:57 AM - 2 Likes   #1
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Dairy Protest Ottawa

Took the following photos of a dairy farmers protest here in Ottawa last week with a Pentax 645, 55mm lens and delta FP+, done in Rodinal 1+50. I had planned on using a 150mm lens for the event but turns out I had the 55mm mounted, and it was misting rain so 55mm it was.

Really enjoy shooting these events with the 645, I hope to shoot some more which is likely as I work downtown.

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10-07-2015, 08:52 AM   #2
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Wow, these are great images. You're part photojournalist!
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I particularly like the No. 1 and 3 in that series. Good work !

Since we are not allowed to discuss "politics" here, I must say: great "timely" images !
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Nice images!

Silly question - what do daily farmers need tractors for? (I obviously never worked on any farm).

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Thanks everyone for the positive feedback! I'm happy with how these photos turned out - I'd like to try wet printing them at some point to see how they turn out vs my DSLR scanning.

Farms and tractors go hand in hand - you have to maintain the fields from what I understand.

Here's one more - I think the least interesting of the bunch, I wanted to finish of the roll of film. :P

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QuoteOriginally posted by realitarian Quote
Nice images!

Silly question - what do daily farmers need tractors for? (I obviously never worked on any farm).
Gotta feed those animals ! The larger the dairy farm stock, the bigger the fields to grow food.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
Gotta feed those animals ! The larger the dairy farm stock, the bigger the fields to grow food.

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Close enough for me, but perhaps some would like a bit more explanation. Dairy farmers do use tractors for field work, but they also need tractors to move feed around and perform janitorial tasks related to their milk cows. Farming in general, but especially in North America is an incredibly capital intensive business. I used to be a salesperson for agricultural tires and I remember visiting a couple in their fifties who operated a 3200 acre grain farm by themselves (with some help from their adult sons for harvesting) using about $2 million worth of equipment. Canadian dairy farmers are a bit unusual in that they require production quotas in order to sell their milk. The supply of production quotas has been fixed for a long time, so even though quotas could originally be purchased for a small fee, they became very valuable over time. The quotas needed to support a relatively small dairy farm were being sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Without debating the politics behind it, the protest in Ottawa was organized because the Canadian Government agreed to eliminate dairy production quotas in order to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, essentially wiping out the value of milk quotas.

I like the pictures, especially 1,2 and 4 because they show off the tractor tires. I think it was 2002 when we hired a fashion photographer to photograph our tires on the equipment of 12 happy customers to produce a promotional calendar. Probably the best promotion we ever ran.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RGlasel Quote
Close enough for me, but perhaps some would like a bit more explanation. Dairy farmers do use tractors for field work, but they also need tractors to move feed around and perform janitorial tasks related to their milk cows. Farming in general, but especially in North America is an incredibly capital intensive business. I used to be a salesperson for agricultural tires and I remember visiting a couple in their fifties who operated a 3200 acre grain farm by themselves (with some help from their adult sons for harvesting) using about $2 million worth of equipment. Canadian dairy farmers are a bit unusual in that they require production quotas in order to sell their milk. The supply of production quotas has been fixed for a long time, so even though quotas could originally be purchased for a small fee, they became very valuable over time. The quotas needed to support a relatively small dairy farm were being sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Without debating the politics behind it, the protest in Ottawa was organized because the Canadian Government agreed to eliminate dairy production quotas in order to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, essentially wiping out the value of milk quotas.

I like the pictures, especially 1,2 and 4 because they show off the tractor tires. I think it was 2002 when we hired a fashion photographer to photograph our tires on the equipment of 12 happy customers to produce a promotional calendar. Probably the best promotion we ever ran.
When my buddy sold his farm in 77 he got more for the quota than he did for the farm. None of the guys who originally bought quota are still around. All these guys paid $100,000s of dollars for their quotas. If the Government accepts a deal that eliminates quotas, they should compensate the farmers. A lot of those guys are still paying off what they paid for those quotas. It's like the Government taking your house and telling you, you still have to pay the mortgage.


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Guys, I just learned more about the protest from your two posts than I had reading multiple news articles on the topic! Thanks, that's super informative, really interesting back story to the modern farms....
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Here's another tractor tire photo. This one didn't really turn out, it's too bad no one is beside it, those tires are huge!

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too bad no one is beside it, those tires are huge!
That would help me determine if they are 20.8R38 or 20.8R42 tires (I think they are 42", but I can't be sure). If 20.8R42 they are about 76" high and each tire will weigh about 300 lbs. without a wheel or ballast. Agricultural tires max out at 85" high, although in some cases, wider sizes (up to twice the width of the 20.8's) are used to carry heavy loads at lower air pressures (as low as 6 PSI in certain applications) in order to minimize soil compaction without requiring gargantuan equipment. Next time you see a farmer, remember he or she is a high-tech business owner, and their RRSP is the value of their land and equipment once they sell out.
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Great images and great stories - I have learnt a lot, thank you to all that contributed info!

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Very enlightening - both the stories and the images!
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Based on the nature of the subject and these pictures, the wide angle 55 seems like a much better bet than the 150. A nice set of pics

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QuoteOriginally posted by asahijock Quote
Based on the nature of the subject and these pictures, the wide angle 55 seems like a much better bet than the 150. A nice set of pics

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Yeah, I agree, it worked out well. My thought with the 150 was some extreme bokeh shots with the long times of tractors, but I managed well with the 55. Also had hoped to get some closer photos with the 150mm - I could have with the 55, but I didn't want to annoy people... :P
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