Small bag options for 645z and travel

2351HD · 03-24-2016, 01:26 PM

Hi,
I am off to France for a couple of weeks and I will be taking a reasonably full 645 kit with me, 645z, 28-45, 35, 80-160, 300mm f5.6 plus filters etc.

That will all be going in a roller bag for airport travel but I am looking for a small shoulder/sling/backpack to use for day tourist stuff.

During the day I will only take 1-2 lenses either the 28-45, the 35, the 28-45 and the 80-160, or the 35 and the 80-160. The 300 will be reserved for long landscape tripod use so won't be a daily carry.

So the kit is not too large for daily carry, just need something to put it in that's small and secure. I normally use Fstop backpacks but they are a bit large for daily tourist walk around.

I have a ThinkTank Sling bag which is ok and comfortable.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

sculptormic · 03-25-2016, 04:57 AM

When I go small and light, I take the 35A, 55 FA, 75 FA and the 150 A.

Oh sorry, it is about bags. Well I always use low profile bags when I travel.

Sperdynamite · 03-25-2016, 06:25 AM

The Think Tank Retrospective 30 or similar should work fine. I sometimes put my Z in the Filson Harvey shoulder bag and that's much smaller. I can fit the body w/ the 75 FA and another lens in the 2nd compartment. The Think tank should hold a bit more. One thing about shoulder bags though, if you load them up too much you're in for a not-too-fun time. That's what backpacks are for. Once those bags start digging into your shoulder it only gets worse as the day goes on. I wouldn't carry more than 2 lenses at any given time with the Z especially for longer sessions out with a shoulder bag. Lowepro makes a small backpack that looks like a Jansport that would hold a nice kit too. It always just depends on how much you want to carry. Less is more when gear is concerned on a trip! That's why I got an RX1RII honestly. That and some filters are all I travel with now.

Gyroscope · 03-25-2016, 05:54 PM

Off topic I know but what camera are you taking for backup?

As far as bags go check out the tamrac g elite series which are basically gura gear bags. I have a gura gear kiboko that i have been using for years. You would want a smaller version but theu are great bags.

2351HD · 03-25-2016, 07:07 PM

I am taking a Sony NEX-6 with a 12mm and 35mm lens and an iPhone. It is not a photography trip but a holiday with my wife. If the camera has a problem I won't be having a fit.

2351HD · 03-25-2016, 08:45 PM

I am going to take a look this week at a ThinkTank Urban Disguise 35 V3.0

It seems to have the height to take a 645Z with 28-45 attached, plus still be relatively small.

Femtometer · 03-26-2016, 12:46 AM

I've been using the Urban Disguise bags for years, and they're great. I have the 60 and 70V2, and both fit the 645Z with 28-45 attached just fine, but there's not much room for anything else. You could work something out with the pads and/or remove the lens for carrying, but I haven't found a way yet to keep the main lens attached and have another, like the 80-160, in the bag at the same time where they're not prone to damage.

Ristretto · 03-26-2016, 07:25 AM

If you are used to F-Stop why not the Kenti Daypack? Perfect fit for a 645 with two lenses plus a raincoat/fleece/water bottle ect. in the upper compartment. Very fast and simple access to the camera without to take off the bag.

That's my choice for daily use

Perhaps you might have a look here: Kleiner subjektiver Foto-Rucksack-Test – Nachtrag 1 | FotoRistretto
It's on German but the images speak for yourselves.

Carsten_R · 03-26-2016, 07:57 AM

This is my preferred bag for 1-2 lenses. For 28-45 plus another lens there is a 15L version.

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2351HD · 03-26-2016, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Ristretto

If you are used to F-Stop why not the Kenti Daypack? Perfect fit for a 645 with two lenses plus a raincoat/fleece/water bottle ect. in the upper compartment. Very fast and simple access to the camera without to take off the bag.

That's my choice for daily use

Perhaps you might have a look here: Kleiner subjektiver Foto-Rucksack-Test – Nachtrag 1 | FotoRistretto
It's on German but the images speak for yourselves.

Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size.

Do you know what the measurements are?

itshimitis · 03-26-2016, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by 2351HD

Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size.

Do you know what the measurements are?

I was intrigued by that one also, but it is showing as discontinued on all the UK sites.

Ristretto · 03-26-2016, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by 2351HD

Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size.

Do you know what the measurements are?

I measured it for you

the internal dimensions of the lower (photo-)compartment are:

Height: 32cm
Depth: 13cm
Width: 25cm (bottom), 23 cm (at the top)

These are all aproximately, because it depends on your personal fitting of the bag.

For example: My 645D with FA 2.8/150mm with the lens shade in normal position fits perfectly in (vertically). With the DFA 2.8/90mm MACRO I have to reverse the lens shade.

Hope this will help you...

Edit: Another advantage is the fact that you can take the camera easily out of the bag (and back) just on swinging the bag sideways forward. The lateral opening is then upwards.

2351HD · 03-26-2016, 05:16 PM

Great, thanks!

I am concerned about safety against pick-pockets when travelling with the Kenti because of the side opening access. How do you find it?

Ristretto · 03-27-2016, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by 2351HD

Great, thanks!

I am concerned about safety against pick-pockets when travelling with the Kenti because of the side opening access. How do you find it?

The lower strap (if closed) make access a little bit more difficult, but honestly I am not very concerned about pickpocket. In a crowd perhaps you can move your elbows backwards that will cover the two entries a little bit.

My opinion: The safer the bag the cumbersome the daily use...

03-24-2016, 01:26 PM	#1
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750	Small bag options for 645z and travel Hi, I am off to France for a couple of weeks and I will be taking a reasonably full 645 kit with me, 645z, 28-45, 35, 80-160, 300mm f5.6 plus filters etc. That will all be going in a roller bag for airport travel but I am looking for a small shoulder/sling/backpack to use for day tourist stuff. During the day I will only take 1-2 lenses either the 28-45, the 35, the 28-45 and the 80-160, or the 35 and the 80-160. The 300 will be reserved for long landscape tripod use so won't be a daily carry. So the kit is not too large for daily carry, just need something to put it in that's small and secure. I normally use Fstop backpacks but they are a bit large for daily tourist walk around. I have a ThinkTank Sling bag which is ok and comfortable. Does anybody have any suggestions?

03-26-2016, 07:57 AM	#9
Carsten_R Guest	Lowepro Flipside Sport 10L AW This is my preferred bag for 1-2 lenses. For 28-45 plus another lens there is a 15L version. Carsten

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03-25-2016, 04:57 AM	#2
sculptormic Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 469	When I go small and light, I take the 35A, 55 FA, 75 FA and the 150 A. Oh sorry, it is about bags. Well I always use low profile bags when I travel.

03-25-2016, 06:25 AM	#3
Sperdynamite Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 271	The Think Tank Retrospective 30 or similar should work fine. I sometimes put my Z in the Filson Harvey shoulder bag and that's much smaller. I can fit the body w/ the 75 FA and another lens in the 2nd compartment. The Think tank should hold a bit more. One thing about shoulder bags though, if you load them up too much you're in for a not-too-fun time. That's what backpacks are for. Once those bags start digging into your shoulder it only gets worse as the day goes on. I wouldn't carry more than 2 lenses at any given time with the Z especially for longer sessions out with a shoulder bag. Lowepro makes a small backpack that looks like a Jansport that would hold a nice kit too. It always just depends on how much you want to carry. Less is more when gear is concerned on a trip! That's why I got an RX1RII honestly. That and some filters are all I travel with now.

03-25-2016, 05:54 PM	#4
Gyroscope Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 166	Off topic I know but what camera are you taking for backup? As far as bags go check out the tamrac g elite series which are basically gura gear bags. I have a gura gear kiboko that i have been using for years. You would want a smaller version but theu are great bags.

03-25-2016, 07:07 PM	#5
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750 Original Poster	I am taking a Sony NEX-6 with a 12mm and 35mm lens and an iPhone. It is not a photography trip but a holiday with my wife. If the camera has a problem I won't be having a fit.

03-25-2016, 08:45 PM	#6
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750 Original Poster	I am going to take a look this week at a ThinkTank Urban Disguise 35 V3.0 It seems to have the height to take a 645Z with 28-45 attached, plus still be relatively small.

03-26-2016, 12:46 AM	#7
Femtometer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 25	I've been using the Urban Disguise bags for years, and they're great. I have the 60 and 70V2, and both fit the 645Z with 28-45 attached just fine, but there's not much room for anything else. You could work something out with the pads and/or remove the lens for carrying, but I haven't found a way yet to keep the main lens attached and have another, like the 80-160, in the bag at the same time where they're not prone to damage.

03-26-2016, 07:25 AM	#8
Ristretto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 159	If you are used to F-Stop why not the Kenti Daypack? Perfect fit for a 645 with two lenses plus a raincoat/fleece/water bottle ect. in the upper compartment. Very fast and simple access to the camera without to take off the bag. That's my choice for daily use Perhaps you might have a look here: Kleiner subjektiver Foto-Rucksack-Test – Nachtrag 1 \| FotoRistretto It's on German but the images speak for yourselves.

03-26-2016, 11:32 AM	#10
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ristretto If you are used to F-Stop why not the Kenti Daypack? Perfect fit for a 645 with two lenses plus a raincoat/fleece/water bottle ect. in the upper compartment. Very fast and simple access to the camera without to take off the bag. That's my choice for daily use Perhaps you might have a look here: Kleiner subjektiver Foto-Rucksack-Test – Nachtrag 1 \| FotoRistretto It's on German but the images speak for yourselves. Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size. Do you know what the measurements are?

03-26-2016, 11:46 AM	#11
itshimitis Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: All over the place Posts: 3,535	Originally posted by 2351HD Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size. Do you know what the measurements are? I was intrigued by that one also, but it is showing as discontinued on all the UK sites.

03-26-2016, 03:13 PM	#12
Ristretto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 159	Originally posted by 2351HD Thanks, I looked at the Kenti but there is no data to show the internal size. Do you know what the measurements are? I measured it for you the internal dimensions of the lower (photo-)compartment are: Height: 32cm Depth: 13cm Width: 25cm (bottom), 23 cm (at the top) These are all aproximately, because it depends on your personal fitting of the bag. For example: My 645D with FA 2.8/150mm with the lens shade in normal position fits perfectly in (vertically). With the DFA 2.8/90mm MACRO I have to reverse the lens shade. Hope this will help you... Edit: Another advantage is the fact that you can take the camera easily out of the bag (and back) just on swinging the bag sideways forward. The lateral opening is then upwards.

03-26-2016, 05:16 PM	#13
2351HD Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 750 Original Poster	Great, thanks! I am concerned about safety against pick-pockets when travelling with the Kenti because of the side opening access. How do you find it?

03-27-2016, 02:47 AM	#14
Ristretto Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 159	Originally posted by 2351HD Great, thanks! I am concerned about safety against pick-pockets when travelling with the Kenti because of the side opening access. How do you find it? The lower strap (if closed) make access a little bit more difficult, but honestly I am not very concerned about pickpocket. In a crowd perhaps you can move your elbows backwards that will cover the two entries a little bit. My opinion: The safer the bag the cumbersome the daily use...