Originally posted by mikeSF Thanks for explaining your statement. Just saying something is "not up to the job" does not constitute proof without the comparative images to back it up, so no disrespect, but I remain dubious of your assertion.
I've used the same bag of lenses with the D and the Z and do not find the glass to limit the performance of either sensor. Since you switched to something else, what is it that you finally found that is giving you the quality that the Pentax 645 system could not?
Mike, the "not up to the job" were not my words, it was my quote of Ed's words. What I said, and I stand behind it, is that the lenses I tried and mentioned in my original post (45-85mm FA, 33-55mm, 35mm A and FA, 120 macro, 150 f/3.5 A, 150 f/2.8, 45mm f/2.8, 200mm A) are definitely outresolved by the 645z's sensor (with the 120 macro being the best of the bunch). I am sorry but since I sold the system I cannot provide you with comparative images.
My reason for switching is simple: lack of wide angle lenses. For my work, I found the 22mm FOV equivalent of the 28-45mm VERY limiting. I often shoot wider than that, and I had to get a K3 with a Sigma 10-20 to cover that, but the quality was obviously lacking (both in general, and especially so compared with the 645z's files).
Since I am also a long-time Leica M user, I got a Leica SL with the 24-90mm native lens (amazing performer, I'd say a perfect lens), and an M adapter with which I can use my 16-18-21mm Tri-Elmar and my Voigtlander 12mm: the former is an exceptional performer all around, the latter is the oldest version and is slightly softer on the extreme corners, but I am going to see what the newest version is like - but at least I have the options. More, I also have other M lenses I can use and that have no equal in the 645 lineup (such as the Noctilux).
The Leica SL's files are very good, but not as good as the Pentax 645z of course - having double the pixels makes a big difference. However, by switching I saved 4-5 kg in my camera bag (great thing when hiking many km to get to a location), and I gained a lot of wide-angle reach and lens flexibility using the superb Leica M glass, plus you can adapt Canon EOS lenses without any loss of function (the 17 T-S is looking very interesting!), etc. If you are interested in my thoughts on the SL (with a short comparison to the 645z as well), please check out my review:
https://vieribottazzini.com/2016/06/landscape-photographer-in-depth-leica-sl-review.html
As I said in my first reply, to me the 645z is the best hidden secret in the digital MF world, and I am very sad to see that Pentax is letting it slowly die (or slowly live, whichever you prefer); while it might make many photographers happy, for what I shoot the Pentax 645 system is lacking. Since is not a religion war, and since I am very much brand-agnostic (go where I think I'll find what I need) if and when Pentax will make the lenses I need, I'll gladly jump back in
Best,
Vieri