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10-19-2017, 05:40 PM   #1
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a new Pentax 645z

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can someone inform me on this issue. I bought a new 645Z but the firmware and digital dates, such as file saving are from 12.31.2013. That seems rather old . could this be an old new camera from stock. Or do that all say 3 years old.
My firmware is also 1.0 ????

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QuoteOriginally posted by barringtonpro Quote
greetings

can someone inform me on this issue. I bought a new 645Z but the firmware and digital dates, such as file saving are from 12.31.2013. That seems rather old . could this be an old new camera from stock. Or do that all say 3 years old.
My firmware is also 1.0 ????

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Charge the battery and make sure you always keep a charged battery in the camera. Late 2013 is probably the default date, since the 645Z came out before that.

Feel free to update the firmware if you want the latest features, too.

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You could always check the shutter count....
10-19-2017, 08:26 PM   #4
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What does the EXIF reveal?

There is a field in the 645Z EXIF: 'Manufacture Date'.

10-20-2017, 02:24 AM   #5
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What does the EXIF reveal?

There is a field in the 645Z EXIF: 'Manufacture Date'.
i tried 3 readers but i did not see a "manufactures date" only dates listed are, show, 3 years ago. With none saying specifically the camera birth date.

do you know an online program that reads the camera production date?

thank you for your help with this
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QuoteOriginally posted by barringtonpro Quote
do you know an online program that reads the camera production date?
The best EXIF reading tool is EXIFTOOL. Just download it, uncompress it, and drop an UNEDITED 645Z DNG or JPEG on top of it to view the EXIF in an image. You will be amazed at the volume of data hidden there.

Jeffrey Friedl's web EXIF reader (powered by EXIFTOOL) also does pretty well reading the EXIF, if you don't mind posting huge files over the web just to read EXIF. (It does, however, truncate some of the EXIF data like the metering segment readings, and mangles a few other data field types). To find the 645Z 'Manufacture Date' field, scroll down to the 'Makers Notes' section of the listings.
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The best EXIF reading tool is EXIFTOOL. Just download it, uncompress it, and drop an UNEDITED 645Z DNG or JPEG on top of it to view the EXIF in an image. You will be amazed at the volume of data hidden there.

Jeffrey Friedl's web EXIF reader (powered by EXIFTOOL) also does pretty well reading the EXIF, if you don't mind posting huge files over the web just to read EXIF. (It does, however, truncate some of the EXIF data like the metering segment readings, and mangles a few other data field types). To find the 645Z 'Manufacture Date' field, scroll down to the 'Makers Notes' section of the listings.
no, i'm not doing something right, I'm getting dates but they all refer to the photo. I don not see any camera manufacturer date.

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Try THIS TOOL
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QuoteOriginally posted by barringtonpro Quote
I'm getting dates but they all refer to the photo. I don not see any camera manufacturer date.
Even if you upload an image to Friedl's site?

BTW, you need to send straight-out-of-camera image files to all these EXIF viewers, not edited ones.

This is the sort of thing you will see from EXIFTOOL:

ExifTool Version Number : 10.54
File Name : ex-pic07.jpg
Directory : K:/.../z/samples
File Size : 15 MB
File Modification Date/Time : 2014:06:04 11:42:40+10:00
File Access Date/Time : 2016:07:14 21:04:10+10:00
File Creation Date/Time : 2016:07:14 21:04:10+10:00
File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
File Type : JPEG
File Type Extension : jpg
MIME Type : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
Make : RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera Model Name : PENTAX 645Z
Orientation : Rotate 270 CW
X Resolution : 300
Y Resolution : 300
Resolution Unit : inches
Software : PENTAX 645Z Ver. 1.00
Modify Date : 2014:04:15 11:03:29
Artist :
Y Cb Cr Positioning : Co-sited
Copyright :
Exposure Time : 1/100
F Number : 10.0
Exposure Program : Manual
Sensitivity Type : Standard Output Sensitivity
Standard Output Sensitivity : 400
Exif Version : 0230
Date/Time Original : 2014:03:08 13:10:52
Create Date : 2014:03:08 13:10:52
Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Flash : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length : 55.0 mm
Pentax Version : 11.2.1.0
Pentax Model Type : 0
Pentax Model ID : 645Z
Date : 2014:03:08
Time : 13:10:52
Quality : Best
Flash Mode : Off, Did not fire; Internal
Focus Mode : AF-C (Release-priority)
AF Point Selected : Unknown (17); 0
ISO : 400
Exposure Compensation : 0
Metering Mode : Multi-segment
Auto Bracketing : 0 EV, No Extended Bracket
White Balance : Kelvin
DSP Firmware Version : 0.31.00.00
Effective LV : 11.3
Image Editing : None
Picture Mode : Manual; 1/3 EV steps
Drive Mode : Single-frame; No Timer; Shutter Button; Single Exposure
Data Scaling : 8192
Lens Type : smc PENTAX-D FA 645 55mm F2.8 AL [IF] SDM AW
Extender Status : Not attached
Sensitivity Adjust : 0
Image Edit Count : 0
Camera Temperature : 24 C
AE Lock : Off
Noise Reduction : Off
Flash Exposure Comp : 0; 0
Image Tone : Bleach Bypass
Color Temperature : 6200
Shutter Count : 3861
Raw Development Process : 14 (645Z)
Hue : None
White Balance Auto Adjustment : Off
Tungsten AWB : Subtle Correction
Dynamic Range Expansion : On; Enabled; 0; 0
World Time Location : Hometown
Hometown DST : No
Destination DST : No
Hometown City : Tokyo
Destination City : Tokyo
High/Low Key Adj : -4
Contrast Highlight : 0
Contrast Shadow : 0
Contrast Highlight/Shadow Adj : Off
Fine Sharpness : Off; Normal
High ISO Noise Reduction : Auto; Inactive
AF Adjustment : 0
Monochrome Filter Effect : None
Monochrome Toning : None
Face Detect : On (5 faces max); 0 faces detected; 1
Face Detect Frame Size : 2096 310
Shadow Correction : Off
ISO Auto Parameters : Standard
Cross Process : Off
Distortion Correction : Off
Chromatic Aberration Correction : On
Peripheral Illumination Corr : Off
Diffraction Correction : On
Bleach Bypass Toning : Green
Aspect Ratio : 4:3
HDR : Off; Auto-align Off; n/a; 0
Interval Shooting : Off
Black Point : 0 0 0 0
White Point : 18176 8192 8192 10624
AE Exposure Time : 1/93
AE Aperture : 9.9
AE ISO : 400
AE Max Aperture : 2.8
AE Max Aperture 2 : 2.8
AE Min Aperture : 23
AE Min Exposure Time : 1/3862
Auto Aperture : On
Min Aperture : 22
Lens F Stops : 8.5
Min Focus Distance : 0.49-0.50 m
Focus Range Index : 3
Nominal Max Aperture : 2.4
Nominal Min Aperture : 27
AE Metering Segments : 6.4 6.1 5.9 5.8 5.9 5.9 5.3 4.3 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.5 4.9 5.0 5.1 5.1 6.9 7.3 6.5 6.6 6.4 6.1 5.6 5.1 4.3 4.1 4.5 4.3 4.1 4.0 4.1 4.8 6.4 7.3 7.3 7.1 7.0 6.8 6.6 6.5 6.4 6.4 6.4 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.6 5.4 5.3 5.0 4.8 4.1 3.9 4.0 4.3 4.3 4.8 5.0 5.0 5.0 5.0 5.5 6.5 6.3 6.6 6.3 6.0 6.0 6.5 5.8 4.6 5.0 5.1 4.3 3.9 4.0 4.1 4.8 6.6 7.3 7.1 7.0 6.8 6.6 6.5 6.5 6.4 6.4 6.3 6.1 5.4 5.3 5.0 4.8 4.5 4.1 3.8 3.8 4.0 4.4 4.6 4.8 5.0 4.9 4.8 4.6 4.5 5.6 6.6 6.5 5.9 6.0 6.5 7.0 6.9 6.3 6.1 6.3 5.8 4.3 3.9 4.0 3.9 5.0 6.5 7.0 6.9 6.8 6.6 6.6 6.5 6.5 6.4 6.3 6.3 5.0 4.6 4.4 4.3 4.0 3.9 3.8 3.9 4.1 6.0 6.5 5.1 4.9 4.8 4.5 4.4 4.1 5.0 6.5 6.3 6.9 7.4 7.6 8.0 8.1 6.9 6.5 6.8 6.6 5.9 4.1 3.6 3.8 3.8 4.6 6.0 6.6 6.8 6.6 6.6 6.6 6.5 6.5 6.4 6.4 5.1 4.5 4.1 4.0 3.9 3.9 3.9 5.1 6.3 7.3 7.5 6.4 4.8 4.6 4.4 4.0 3.8 4.1 6.4 6.4 7.4 8.0 8.1 8.5 7.5 7.1 7.1 7.0 6.9 6.6 5.8 3.9
[...]
Flash Metering Segments : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[...]
Slave Flash Metering Segments : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[...]
Manufacture Date : 2014:01:15
Production Code : 2.1
Internal Serial Number : 1025
Power Source : Body Battery
Body Battery State : Close to Full
Body Battery Voltage 1 : 6.49 V
Body Battery Voltage 2 : 6.25 V
AF Predictor : 903
AF Defocus : 2
AF Integration Time : 0 ms
AF Points In Focus : None
Kelvin WB Daylight : 5205 0 2.0377197265625 1.429443359375
Kelvin WB 01 : 2500 0 1.1112060546875 2.5277099609375
Kelvin WB 02 : 2630 0 1.174560546875 2.4393310546875
Kelvin WB 03 : 2780 0 1.24658203125 2.329833984375
Kelvin WB 04 : 2940 0 1.320068359375 2.217529296875
Kelvin WB 05 : 3130 0 1.4024658203125 2.0960693359375
Kelvin WB 06 : 3330 0 1.4833984375 1.9847412109375
Kelvin WB 07 : 3570 0 1.5740966796875 1.870361328125
Kelvin WB 08 : 3850 0 1.6717529296875 1.759521484375
Kelvin WB 09 : 4170 0 1.7733154296875 1.6561279296875
Kelvin WB 10 : 4550 0 1.88134765625 1.55712890625
Kelvin WB 11 : 5000 0 1.9931640625 1.464111328125
Kelvin WB 12 : 5560 0 2.11083984375 1.374755859375
Kelvin WB 13 : 6250 0 2.228515625 1.2923583984375
Kelvin WB 14 : 7140 0 2.3460693359375 1.215576171875
Kelvin WB 15 : 8330 0 2.4599609375 1.1456298828125
Kelvin WB 16 : 10000 0 2.5667724609375 1.0828857421875
WB Shift AB : 0
WB Shift GM : 0
EV Steps : 1/3 EV Steps
Sensitivity Steps : 1 EV Steps
Serial Number :
Source Directory Index : 0
Source File Index : 0
Level Orientation : Rotate 270 CW
Composition Adjust : Off
Roll Angle : -1.5
Pitch Angle : -2.5
Composition Adjust X : -4
Composition Adjust Y : 1
Composition Adjust Rotation : 5
Contrast Detect AF Area : 0 0 0 0
Flashpix Version : 0100
Color Space : sRGB
Exif Image Width : 8256
Exif Image Height : 6192
Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version : 0100
Sensing Method : One-chip color area
File Source : Digital Camera
Scene Type : Directly photographed
Custom Rendered : Custom
Exposure Mode : Manual
Focal Length In 35mm Format : 43 mm
Scene Capture Type : Standard
Contrast : High
Saturation : Normal
Sharpness : Soft
Subject Distance Range : Close
GPS Version ID : 2.3.0.0
PrintIM Version : 0300
Compression : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset : 32138
Thumbnail Length : 7405
Preview Image Size : 720x480
Preview Image Length : 53166
Preview Image Start : 39620
Preview Image Borders : 0 0 40 40
Image Width : 8256
Image Height : 6192
Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample : 8
Color Components : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
Aperture : 10.0
Image Size : 8256x6192
Lens ID : smc PENTAX-D FA 645 55mm F2.8 AL [IF] SDM AW
Megapixels : 51.1
Preview Image : (Binary data 53166 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 0.8
Shutter Speed : 1/100
Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7405 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Circle Of Confusion : 0.038 mm
Field Of View : 45.4 deg
Focal Length : 55.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 43.0 mm)
Hyperfocal Distance : 7.87 m
Light Value : 11.3
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Last edited by rawr; 10-20-2017 at 04:47 AM.
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If you use ExifToolGUI and look in Maker Notes you will see the manufacture date as in the attached

Last edited by TonyW; 11-30-2017 at 07:16 AM.
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