Help: Dry fired my new 67ii and now it won't advance

TrevorB · 01-06-2018, 12:58 PM

Hello all,

I just got a Pentax 67ii, loaded up the batteries, and fired the shutter without any film loaded. The shutter fired (ISO was already set to 160 and shutter speed was on Auto), but I couldn't advance it, and a day later, still can't. I've been able to open the back, take lenses off and put them back on, and still the advance won't really budge.

I want to load film and start shooting, but the film advance lever won't move so I can't. The battery is new and the meter and other functions seem responsive, and the camera is basically in mint condition. Any ideas?

Thanks so much for your help, in advance.

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**BigMackCam** · 01-06-2018, 01:06 PM

Hi...

I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing?

This thread may be of some assistance:

Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com

TrevorB · 01-06-2018, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Hi...

I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing?

This thread may be of some assistance:

Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com

Hi Mike, thanks for the reply. I didn't follow the manual or use the special key, I just simply pressed the shutter button when the camera was on and there was no film loaded, just to test the shutter. It fired correctly, but now I can't seem to advance it.

**Mikesul** · 01-06-2018, 02:19 PM - **1 Like**

It appears that the 67 is designed this way. You have to trick it into thinking it has film. Open the back, move the shot counter by hand to 1 or 2 shots. close the back and it seems it will then fire. I do not have one but I have been looking into it and this is what I remember. There are several Youtube videos which explain it.

TrevorB · 01-06-2018, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

It appears that the 67 is designed this way. You have to trick it into thinking it has film. Open the back, move the shot counter by hand to 1 or 2 shots. close the back and it seems it will then fire. I do not have one but I have been looking into it and this is what I remember. There are several Youtube videos which explain it.

Interesting. Does this work on the 67ii? The film counter is a digital readout on the LCD display - can I manually adjust anything?

**seventhdr** · 01-06-2018, 06:49 PM

The Pentax 67 II can be dry fired without needing the special key that the 6x7 and 67 cameras needed.

Try taking the prism off and the lens off, then refit the prism and lens in that order. I seem to recall come mention of this in the manual.

By the way you can download the Pentax 67 II manual from the Pentax website.

Regards

Chris

disconnekt · 01-06-2018, 09:09 PM

Here's a link for the manual: Pentax 6X7 II instruction manual, Pentax 6x7 prism finder, user manual, PDF manual, free manuals

leekil · 01-06-2018, 11:01 PM

Better version of the manual is here:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/67II.pdf

Silent Street · 01-06-2018, 11:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Hi...

I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing?

This thread may be of some assistance:

Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com

This procedure applies only to the Pentax 6x7 and later Pentax 67 cameras. It is not applicable to the 67II.

---------- Post added 7th Jan 2018 at 05:47 PM ----------

Originally posted by TrevorB

Hello all,

I just got a Pentax 67ii, loaded up the batteries, and fired the shutter without any film loaded. The shutter fired (ISO was already set to 160 and shutter speed was on Auto), but I couldn't advance it, and a day later, still can't. I've been able to open the back, take lenses off and put them back on, and still the advance won't really budge.

I want to load film and start shooting, but the film advance lever won't move so I can't. The battery is new and the meter and other functions seem responsive, and the camera is basically in mint condition. Any ideas?

Thanks so much for your help, in advance.

I suggest that you load film in, advance the film to the first frame and start from there, not with the back open, no film loaded and dry-firing. I am at a loss to find an explanation for you to start firing the camera without any film in it.

**gofour3** · 01-11-2018, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by TrevorB

Help: Dry fired my new 67ii and now it won't advance

Welcome to the forum! Did you read page 30 in the 67ii manual for the special instruction on dry firing?

Also note the 67ii is totally different from the older 6x7 & 67, so you must read the manual front to back before doing any testing. This is an advanced camera with many features not found on the other Pentax 6x7 bodies. I would also not recommend dry firing any 6x7 body, including the 67ii, they are meant to be tested with film loaded. This is the only way to really see whats going on.

Phil.

01-06-2018, 12:58 PM	#1
TrevorB New Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 3	Help: Dry fired my new 67ii and now it won't advance Hello all, I just got a Pentax 67ii, loaded up the batteries, and fired the shutter without any film loaded. The shutter fired (ISO was already set to 160 and shutter speed was on Auto), but I couldn't advance it, and a day later, still can't. I've been able to open the back, take lenses off and put them back on, and still the advance won't really budge. I want to load film and start shooting, but the film advance lever won't move so I can't. The battery is new and the meter and other functions seem responsive, and the camera is basically in mint condition. Any ideas? Thanks so much for your help, in advance. Attached Images

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01-06-2018, 01:06 PM	#2
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Hi... I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing? This thread may be of some assistance: Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com

01-06-2018, 01:25 PM	#3
TrevorB New Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 3 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Hi... I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing? This thread may be of some assistance: Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com Hi Mike, thanks for the reply. I didn't follow the manual or use the special key, I just simply pressed the shutter button when the camera was on and there was no film loaded, just to test the shutter. It fired correctly, but now I can't seem to advance it.

01-06-2018, 02:19 PM - 1 Like	#4
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	It appears that the 67 is designed this way. You have to trick it into thinking it has film. Open the back, move the shot counter by hand to 1 or 2 shots. close the back and it seems it will then fire. I do not have one but I have been looking into it and this is what I remember. There are several Youtube videos which explain it.

01-06-2018, 02:29 PM	#5
TrevorB New Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 3 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mikesul It appears that the 67 is designed this way. You have to trick it into thinking it has film. Open the back, move the shot counter by hand to 1 or 2 shots. close the back and it seems it will then fire. I do not have one but I have been looking into it and this is what I remember. There are several Youtube videos which explain it. Interesting. Does this work on the 67ii? The film counter is a digital readout on the LCD display - can I manually adjust anything?

01-06-2018, 06:49 PM	#6
seventhdr Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,440	The Pentax 67 II can be dry fired without needing the special key that the 6x7 and 67 cameras needed. Try taking the prism off and the lens off, then refit the prism and lens in that order. I seem to recall come mention of this in the manual. By the way you can download the Pentax 67 II manual from the Pentax website. Regards Chris

01-06-2018, 09:09 PM	#7
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,699	Here's a link for the manual: Pentax 6X7 II instruction manual, Pentax 6x7 prism finder, user manual, PDF manual, free manuals

01-06-2018, 11:01 PM	#8
leekil Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,003	Better version of the manual is here: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/67II.pdf

01-06-2018, 11:39 PM - 1 Like	#9
Silent Street Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Castlemaine, Victoria, AUS Photos: Albums Posts: 1,151	Originally posted by BigMackCam Hi... I don't have this camera so can't help directly. However, have you followed the instructions in the manual for dry firing? This thread may be of some assistance: Pentax 6x7 film advance not working - PentaxForums.com This procedure applies only to the Pentax 6x7 and later Pentax 67 cameras. It is not applicable to the 67II. ---------- Post added 7th Jan 2018 at 05:47 PM ---------- Originally posted by TrevorB Hello all, I just got a Pentax 67ii, loaded up the batteries, and fired the shutter without any film loaded. The shutter fired (ISO was already set to 160 and shutter speed was on Auto), but I couldn't advance it, and a day later, still can't. I've been able to open the back, take lenses off and put them back on, and still the advance won't really budge. I want to load film and start shooting, but the film advance lever won't move so I can't. The battery is new and the meter and other functions seem responsive, and the camera is basically in mint condition. Any ideas? Thanks so much for your help, in advance. I suggest that you load film in, advance the film to the first frame and start from there, not with the back open, no film loaded and dry-firing. I am at a loss to find an explanation for you to start firing the camera without any film in it.

01-11-2018, 01:39 PM	#10
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,091	Originally posted by TrevorB Help: Dry fired my new 67ii and now it won't advance Welcome to the forum! Did you read page 30 in the 67ii manual for the special instruction on dry firing? Also note the 67ii is totally different from the older 6x7 & 67, so you must read the manual front to back before doing any testing. This is an advanced camera with many features not found on the other Pentax 6x7 bodies. I would also not recommend dry firing any 6x7 body, including the 67ii, they are meant to be tested with film loaded. This is the only way to really see whats going on. Phil.