Originally posted by Ed Hurst I have always found the 165 f2.8 to be optically superior to the 200 f4. Sharper, better contrast, just more satisfying results
Thanks! That's exactly what I'm looking for.
Cjf
---------- Post added 02-22-18 at 06:15 PM ----------
Originally posted by johnha I have both but don't use them much, I mostly shoot the 45/4 (fantastic focal length) or 75/4.5 - I don't have the 90 or 105. The 165/2.8 provides a brighter focussing screen (something I appreciate with my 6x7 MLU micro-prism screen) and I feel it is easier to handle. Something to think about though, is that lenses beyond 200mm become more of a handful, (from what I gather the 300mm is just-about hand-holdable). Therefore if you'd like more reach than the 165, the 200 might be a better choice but the 165's faster aperture is significant.
I'm shocked at how well that 67 handles with a 45mm lens on it. Amazing balance for something so big. I'm not looking for anything long. Which ever one of these I get will be my portrait lens.
Cjf
---------- Post added 02-22-18 at 06:20 PM ----------
Originally posted by CreationBear I have both of those lenses and love 'em both, but I will say that the 200/4 is a big lens--not particularly heavy, but long enough that it can be a hassle to keep it mounted, depending on your bag. On the upside, it seems to be absurdly underpriced, so you really wouldn't be risking much if you did decide to pass it on later. Another benefit is that it lets you frame a bit tighter than the 165/2.8, which, as with the 105/2.4, limits your portrait possibilities (unless you use an extension ring.)
As for optical qualities, I'll let the folks with more experience chime in--though I must say that your experience with the 77 and 135/1.8 sets the bar pretty high.
Again, this is what I'm looking for, and I appreciate your answer. One of the HUGE differences between the 135/1.8 and the 77 is that the 77 is small and light; the K70 is fast and precise with it. The 135 is the size and weight of a small truck. You kinda hang the K70 off of it, rather than vica versa.
The more of this I hear from all ya'll, the better the 165 sounds.
Cjf
---------- Post added 02-22-18 at 06:22 PM ----------
Originally posted by desertscape Maybe a better question would be, which is better, the 200 or the 165 LS? The LS is short and handles well. It is a sharp lens as well.
Hadn't really considered it, because it's more than double the price and I just don't do any flash work, which I thought was it's primary fuction.
Cjf
---------- Post added 02-22-18 at 06:23 PM ----------
Originally posted by gofour3 Also which 200/4 are you referring to? The last version of the 200/4 (77 mm filter thread) is what you want to get.
I actually like the 200/4 better than the 165/2.8 and about the same as the 165/4 LS.
If you have the funds I would get the 200/4 as well as one of the two165 mm lenses.
Phil.
Hi Phil,
Yes, the final version of the 200/4. And buy them both -- don't think I'm not considering it!
Cjf