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superpowerpinger · 08-10-2018, 09:17 AM

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normhead · 08-10-2018, 09:48 AM - **2 Likes**

I gave it a brief gander. I simply can't watch that level of incompetence. Messing around with camera settings with a model in front of you? Really.?Since I didn't watch much of the video I don't even know what camera he was using when he was fussing about. It was simply more than I could take, and looked like it was going to be a comparison between a camera he had never used before, and a camera he was comfortable with. But I don't have much patience so maybe I was wrong.

Personally, I wouldn't have fumbled around that much with a view camera.

Maybe I just watched the wrong 15 seconds.

stevebrot · 08-10-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Personally, I wouldn't have fumbled around that much with a view camera.

That might have been a good choice to make it a three-way.

Steve

**rdenney** · 08-10-2018, 10:45 AM - **2 Likes**

What’s funny is that the P645z photos were noticeably better even in the video. They had better color, more range, and a more natural look. He noted the improved color briefly and then complained about moire that wouldn’t be visible on a billboard (and certainly wasn’t in the video I saw).

And then, after exploring only one narrow type of photography, he made his judgment based on versatility.

Rick “sheesh” Denney

**yucatanPentax** · 08-10-2018, 02:17 PM

He lost me when they were comparing photo quality on the LCDs of the cameras.

When he went to the monitor view of the images, the Pentax images were clearly richer and fuller. In the end, it was just too boring to watch. Including all the fiddling in the video, as Norm says, is just ridiculous, especially when he kept forgetting the flash trigger and didn't know how to set it. Really? You're including that foolishness in your video?

Toooo long and boring. Edit it down to 4-5 minutes and stop the music when talking.

jadeyphoto · 08-10-2018, 07:18 PM - **1 Like**

I cannot recommend watching the video

mikeSF · 08-11-2018, 03:57 AM

I would've been more interested in a comparison between the D850 and K1 or K1II, and suspect that would be a close match up.
His quality criteria in this video was weak at best and I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth?
Agree with the other posts, if you haven't watched it yet, it ain't worth the click.

---------- Post added 08-11-18 at 03:57 AM ----------

Originally posted by jadeyphoto

I cannot recommend watching the video

motion seconded

Fcsnt54 · 08-16-2018, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by mikeSF

I would've been more interested in a comparison between the D850 and K1 or K1II, and suspect that would be a close match up.
His quality criteria in this video was weak at best and I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth?
Agree with the other posts, if you haven't watched it yet, it ain't worth the click.

---------- Post added 08-11-18 at 03:57 AM ----------

motion seconded

It makes sense for the model to like the one with less detail. The more detail, the more flaws someone can spot?

normhead · 08-16-2018, 12:44 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by mikeSF

I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth?

Nobody seems to understand the value of soft portrait lenses these days. It's like 50 years of photographic knowledge washed down the tube by 10 years of exuberant pixel peepers.

mikeSF · 08-17-2018, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Nobody seems to understand the value of soft portrait lenses these days. It's like 50 years of photographic knowledge washed down the tube by 10 years of exuberant pixel peepers.

True, but I still want sharp eyes and eyelashes. If I weren't processing skin, I would be fairly happy with a soft-ish portrait lens, maybe.

Timotis77 · 12-27-2018, 01:47 AM - **1 Like**

Thanks for the above posts, you've all saved me from watching it and wasting data downloading it...

08-10-2018, 09:48 AM - 2 Likes	#2
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I gave it a brief gander. I simply can't watch that level of incompetence. Messing around with camera settings with a model in front of you? Really.?Since I didn't watch much of the video I don't even know what camera he was using when he was fussing about. It was simply more than I could take, and looked like it was going to be a comparison between a camera he had never used before, and a camera he was comfortable with. But I don't have much patience so maybe I was wrong. Personally, I wouldn't have fumbled around that much with a view camera. Maybe I just watched the wrong 15 seconds. Last edited by normhead; 08-10-2018 at 12:49 PM.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by normhead Personally, I wouldn't have fumbled around that much with a view camera. That might have been a good choice to make it a three-way. Steve

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rdenney Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NoVA Posts: 635	What’s funny is that the P645z photos were noticeably better even in the video. They had better color, more range, and a more natural look. He noted the improved color briefly and then complained about moire that wouldn’t be visible on a billboard (and certainly wasn’t in the video I saw). And then, after exploring only one narrow type of photography, he made his judgment based on versatility. Rick “sheesh” Denney

08-10-2018, 02:17 PM	#5
yucatanPentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Yucatan Posts: 1,842	He lost me when they were comparing photo quality on the LCDs of the cameras. When he went to the monitor view of the images, the Pentax images were clearly richer and fuller. In the end, it was just too boring to watch. Including all the fiddling in the video, as Norm says, is just ridiculous, especially when he kept forgetting the flash trigger and didn't know how to set it. Really? You're including that foolishness in your video? Toooo long and boring. Edit it down to 4-5 minutes and stop the music when talking.

08-10-2018, 07:18 PM - 1 Like	#6
jadeyphoto New Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 23	I cannot recommend watching the video

08-11-2018, 03:57 AM	#7
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,622	I would've been more interested in a comparison between the D850 and K1 or K1II, and suspect that would be a close match up. His quality criteria in this video was weak at best and I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth? Agree with the other posts, if you haven't watched it yet, it ain't worth the click. ---------- Post added 08-11-18 at 03:57 AM ---------- Originally posted by jadeyphoto I cannot recommend watching the video motion seconded

08-16-2018, 12:41 PM	#8
Fcsnt54 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: California Posts: 621	Originally posted by mikeSF I would've been more interested in a comparison between the D850 and K1 or K1II, and suspect that would be a close match up. His quality criteria in this video was weak at best and I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth? Agree with the other posts, if you haven't watched it yet, it ain't worth the click. ---------- Post added 08-11-18 at 03:57 AM ---------- motion seconded It makes sense for the model to like the one with less detail. The more detail, the more flaws someone can spot?

08-16-2018, 12:44 PM - 3 Likes	#9
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by mikeSF I LOL'd that the model opined she prefers the D850 because it has less detail, wth? Nobody seems to understand the value of soft portrait lenses these days. It's like 50 years of photographic knowledge washed down the tube by 10 years of exuberant pixel peepers.

08-17-2018, 08:02 AM	#10
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,622	Originally posted by normhead Nobody seems to understand the value of soft portrait lenses these days. It's like 50 years of photographic knowledge washed down the tube by 10 years of exuberant pixel peepers. True, but I still want sharp eyes and eyelashes. If I weren't processing skin, I would be fairly happy with a soft-ish portrait lens, maybe.

12-27-2018, 01:47 AM - 1 Like	#11
Timotis77 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 84	Thanks for the above posts, you've all saved me from watching it and wasting data downloading it...

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