Originally posted by Fcsnt54 Great video
Thank you!!
Originally posted by biz-engineer The 645z is the Rolls Royce, the GFX has the lenses, with Fuji showing they are active in that format. Is Pentax still doing anything for 645?
I hope they still are :/
Originally posted by biz-engineer That's dumb, how do you know lenses can resolve 100Mp based on seeing images from a 50Mp sensor?
Maybe youtube compression doesnt show it, but its the sharpest images I have ever seen, and I've used some sharp lesnes, what comes close is the Leica Summicron APO that I used for a video review, but this GFX lens is on another level, plus Fujifilm is gonna use the GFX lenses on their new 100MP body, im sure they knew while creating the GFX50s that they gonna go higher on the MP in the future
Originally posted by sbh Thanks for the video!
Sharpness and noise on the gfx almost seems like there would be some in-camera sharpening going on.
They said they are watching the market.
yeah there could be some in camera sharpening, its just crazy sharp.
Originally posted by biz-engineer Yes, your statement makes sense. The sensor is the same, I can't imagine how the Fuji implementation would show more noise, unless there is some additional sharpening applied on the Fuji, or noise reduction applied to the Pentax. The 645z is large, it can be a disadvantage, but the handling / grip and controls of the 645z are pro-level. I've been contemplating MF for awhile, I like the 645z concept, but Ricoh's lack of perspective puts me off. My guess is that after Fuji will release the 100Mp, there will be a number of GFX50 for sale used.
Note: in the video , there are a number of incorrect statements. Such as "the 645z have more sealing points because it's a larger body" (the number of seals has nothing to do with body size), or comment from the lady implying that the GFX is lighter and "more durable"... more durable? based on what?
Yes I love how the 645Z feels in the hands
. I am assuming the 645Z has more seals since it is a larger body with 76 seals, and 50R is a smaller body at 64 seals, just makes sense to me. 645Z more durable based on those that owend it that I talked to, B&H marketing reps came to Guam and we all met at the beach, and I brought the 645Z, one guy said he had the camera for over a year, and took it with him to I believe Bali or Thailand? not sure, but he took it through the rain and mud and still worked.
Originally posted by btnapa I agree.
If the sharpness findings in the video are correct, then I can't believe Pentax putting out a killer body with subpar lenses. I can understand Pentax legacy, film era lenses being soft or not sharp enough. There is no excuse for a modern lens not being up to the task.
I would choose Fuji just for the lenses. After playing with the Fuji offerings at last month's WPPI. I think they are just as big as the 645Z when you consider how big the Fuji zoom lenses are. In another words both systems are big and bulky.
True, both can be big and bulky
Originally posted by biz-engineer The GFX50S is about the size of a K1, and f4 GF lenses are about the size of f2.8 lenses on the K1. The problem is the prices. I consider that pricing and resolutions are ridiculous. For a Panasonic S1R with 47Mp crammed into 24mmx36mm, it's overpriced because no matter what the S1R is still 24x36. I feel like pricing around $2K for full frame 30Mp and $4K for MF 50Mp would find more full frame users and more MF users. At the end of the day, as I've just posted in another thread, cramming more mega pixel in the sames sensor areas doesn't proportionally increase the quality of image output.
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I suppose the newer DA lenses like the 28-45 and 90 macro are good, it's just that there aren't many and they aren't cheap. GFX lenses aren't cheap either... most GF lenses are priced between 2K and $3K.
Thats why I like the 645Z system most lenses are within my reach ($$).
Originally posted by sbh Me too, but for me it's more the available lenses. I wouldn't want to invest a bunch of money and then have to use legacy lenses. A modern version of the 80-160 would be nice and the 90mm macro feels a bit short. But currently I'm more than happy with the K-1 so I'll wait and see.
I do want to try out the 80-160
Maybe ill get it when im in Japan next month.
Originally posted by Fcsnt54 I do use the gfx fairly regularly and have done tests comparing the files using only Pentax lenses to keep the files consistent. I was not comparing lenses I want to just compare files/sensor. the Fuji files are larger by a good amount. Didn't matter if I placed the 645Z in dng or pef. That tells me there is probably more processing I'd imagine going on with the Fuji. As far as files go, the Fuji tends to be more on the contrast side, to where the shadows are darker and more of a sharp drop off compared to the Pentax which seemed more gradual and lighter on the contrast.
Yes this is true, from what I noticed.