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12-19-2019, 03:38 PM   #31
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IIRC the original 6x7 non-MLUs are less repairable than later cameras. The 6x7 MLU & 67 are next on the list (67s are newer/later but condition is more important). The 67ii is the newest & most expensive, but is more reliant on electronics, which may be s problem long term.

I have a 67 with split image focussing aid but often prefer my 6x7 MLU which has a micro prism screen (I don't know which is standard).

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QuoteOriginally posted by SpottyReputation Quote
I'm looking for anything that you'd label as a Pentax SLR-styled medium format camera. 6x7 is listed by name largely because they seem to be a little more common in my neck of the woods, and are lower priced than the 67II. If a 67II made itself available to me at a good price, i'd be absolutely into that.
Mamiya 7 is one option, though it's odd, square body shape doesn't agree with a lot of people.
The 67II sometimes comes up in discussions with faults (external display) or other miscellaneous niggles, but without knowing the specifics and background, these shouldn't be seen as a deterrent to using this camera. Consider also that the 6x7 and 67 only meter down to 1 second, with a rudimentary 5-stop metering range, so you'll also need to be up to speed with handheld incident/multispot/duplex metering to take over where the humble P67 leaves off. No biggie really, and you can actually do better than the camera's own meter.

You may be lucky enough to happen across a P67 with a little chrome thingamejig sticking out on the right-hand side of the camera, next to the 120/220 format selector. This is a factory-fitted multi-exposure facility, and is often sought after by the arty types (like me!) for layering images (no Fauxtoshoppe here!!). Very few of these old cameras were fitted with this, but it was also offered an at-cost modification if owners wished.
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You can also do multiple exposures with the 90/2.8 leaf shutter lens (and possibly the 165 leaf shutter too?).
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You can also do multiple exposures with the 90/2.8 leaf shutter lens (and possibly the 165 leaf shutter too?).

With both lenses. There is a caveat when using the 165mm which escapes me at the moment. I use the on-camera ME function often, not with the LS lenses.

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Yeah, but it's only, what, 10 photos per roll these days; it shouldn't take to long to finish up that roll.
It isn't about finishing up a roll, it is about changing film. The interchangeable backs allowed me to take image in each type of film, without changing the composition. I liked shooting subjects in both B&W and Color (neg and Chrome), so shooting 10 shots, to get one, was not very economical.
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No multiple exposures with the 165 LS lens on a 6x7/67
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No multiple exposures with the 165 LS lens on a 6x7/67
Yes, that's right.
Can't think very straight.
Oh...bugger (and a few choice expletives which cannot be repeated in this family-friendly forum...) . Stuck in an otherwise pretty place with the temperature hitting an infernally hot 48 degrees (Celsius!! ) - - an actual all time record for the area

I'm sleeping in the pub tonight with Pentaximus and two cattle dogs for company!!

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QuoteOriginally posted by SpottyReputation Quote
So, for your 6x7 owners, what's it like living with a 6x7? I almost bought one years ago, but ended up with a Mamiya rb67 pro sd due to much lower pricing. The Pentax was always the plan, but... university student budget didn't allow for me to be picky. Last 2 years of uni, but after that I find that i don't use it as much as I should because I am very lazy, and don't want to carry a tripod.


Does the SLR-ness of the 6x7 allow it to be more out and about? Is it worth pursuing one (long term goal), or will it just join the RB67 in storage? Maybe i should lift some weights, and get the mamiya out again...


I ask this in all seriousness.

Thanks for your time,

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I bought the 6x7 because I couldn't afford a Hasselblad and found that the RB 67 was incredibly unreliable. I always enjoyed shooting with it. One of the nice thing about the Pentax with an eye level viewfinder was that it was heavy enough to be able to shoot at pretty low shutter speeds without a tripod. I was able to successfully hand hold down to 1/30 second with the 105mm lens.
The urban myth that medium format needs a tripod is just that. A heavier camera is a steadier camera.
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There was an old beat-up 6X7 without mirror lock-up where I was working. It sat gathering dust for over 10 years before I rediscovered and revived it with a PX28 battery. It took only 9 pictures per roll of 120 film and would have needed repairs but no one wanted to put a cent on its maintenance. I was always wowed by the results this camera with a 105 mm gave. I bought a personal Pentax 67 in 1991 with a 55 mm f/4, 90 mm f/2.8 and 200 mm f/4, all late models. For landscape photography, you are better using a tripod with slow films so as to maximize depth of field using f/11 and f/16 most of the time. I traded my 67 for a 67II when the new model became available (2002 or 2003, I'm not sure) and kept adding lenses to my arsenal (45 mm f/4, 75 mm f/2.8, 100 mm f/4 macro, 105 mm f/2.4, 135 mm f/4 semi-macro, 165 mm f/2.8, M* 300 mm f/4 ED and lastly, a 55-100 mm f/4.5 zoom). The 90 mm f/2.8 was the only 67 lens I ever disliked because of its lack of contrast and snap. I was considering buying a lama to carry all this stuff when I discovered a used like-new 645N with an A 45-85 mm f/4.5 on eBay. Then I regretted a little having had to haul my heavy 67 system for so many years, in reality the 645 format gave me almost similar results and was much more convivial to use. I started acquiring a lot of 645 lenses over the years plus the (67 to 645) Pentax adapter and now I use a digital 645Z with all the lenses purchased over a period of more than 25 years. The 645 format is the best of both worlds, IMHO.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
I bought the 6x7 because I couldn't afford a Hasselblad and found that the RB 67 was incredibly unreliable. I always enjoyed shooting with it. One of the nice thing about the Pentax with an eye level viewfinder was that it was heavy enough to be able to shoot at pretty low shutter speeds without a tripod. I was able to successfully hand hold down to 1/30 second with the 105mm lens.
The urban myth that medium format needs a tripod is just that. A heavier camera is a steadier camera.
IIRC, you are a pretty big dude, though.
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IIRC, you are a pretty big dude, though.
I tend to think small thoughts though. I suppose I'm on the large side. Just over six feet and around 250 lb. I'm not carrying a lot of fat.
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I tend to think small thoughts though. I suppose I'm on the large side. Just over six feet and around 250 lb. I'm not carrying a lot of fat.
I remember you posting a picture of you taking a picture of a school bus hemispherical mirror or something and that P645 looked like a Pentax ME in your hands. I think I even made a comment about that back then.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
I tend to think small thoughts though.
Uh-huh. And then you string all those "small thoughts" together...



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I suppose I'm on the large side. Just over six feet and around 250 lb. I'm not carrying a lot of fat.
So you have a good build and strength for hand-holding a MF camera. You've probably mastered great technique, as well. Many folks don't have the size/strength, have various infirmities, and haven't developed the right technique.

You are very right about the heavier camera being the steadier camera... some of my online acquaintances in the m4/3 world have discovered this, to their surprise and chagrin.
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You can also do multiple exposures with the 90/2.8 leaf shutter lens (and possibly the 165 leaf shutter too?).
I've tried multiple exposures on the 90/2.8LS and it's clunky to use, the 165/4LS dropped this function.

The 67II has a multiple exposure function that you can use with any lens, so that's what I do now.

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But people hardly take double exposures if what gets posted here on PF is any indication.
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