Originally posted by biz-engineer What bugging me about those medium format camera system is after sales / repair / part services. Pentax 645z is still being sold, not discontinued, even after years of being sold, which is quite reassuring from a professional use standpoint. Continued support seems similar with Hasselblad. When I look at Fuji, things look more chaotic and tuned into the rapid obsolescence, they've changed the battery model since 50S and 50R series (short lived), and lots of lenses can't be bought right now with unknown deliver lead times, which IMHO isn't professional at all. Just imagine you are a professional using Fuji MF and your lens break, so you must stop working? Not serious at all. A professional need to be sure to be able to source equipment when needed and have his gear serviced in short lead times. So yes, 645z isn't new, but there is inventory of cameras and lenses available.
Regarding Fuji lenses not available : I didn't check Fuji's situation, if it is a retailer problem only or the same on Fuji's own site, but you should keep in mind that there is a global semi-conductor supply shortage, and everything with electronics inside is potentially impacted. In what interests us, there are numerous camera manufacturers who stop orders on certain cameras or lenses, or delay the release of new models. I don't think Fuji is already stopping production of GF lenses "just for fun".
If I wanted to be sarcastic, I would add that today, what is available is what is in the inventory and not selling very well in normal times...
Originally posted by TDvN57 Read about the Hasselblad history and camera range over the weekend. Was surprised to see how much "sharing" of rebranded models are going on in the market. At some point Hasselblad sold Fuji cameras re-branded and Leica sold rebranded Panasonics and Sony cameras. The cheaper X1D 50 is basically a Fuji GFX 50 camera.
Hasselblad shamelessly market their new H6D100s with $15,000 upgrade as a H6D400s. The two cameras are identical, except the 400s has pixel shift and compiles a 400mpx picture, for an additional $15k. Lenses are $5k and up, and very limited in focal range. Want to do long lens pictures? You need a Pentax lens with an adapter. Go figure. The specs don't really impress me although it is sort of half way between the 43x33 format and 645FF. I couldn't figure out who is making the sensor for them.
Regarding Hasselblad, they did have a difficult period regarding strategy, rebranding Sony cameras in a questionnable manner. But that's the only rebranding they have done out of a real business cooperation. They shared the X-pan with Fuji, long time ago. I think it is at the same time that they developed the H line up with Fuji, precisely. H lenses designed by Hasselblad (they have the patents), assembled by Fuji. For the body, it was sold under Fuji's name in Japan, but it was (and still is) made in Sweden.
The X1D has nothing in common with Fuji, except the sensor from Sony, the same as Pentax 645Z one as already mentionned.
Regarding lens prices : there is a huge second hand market on Hasselblad H lenses, so no problem really, even if they are more expensive (but more modern too) than Pentax in average.
I wouldn't call the range "limited" : they are better covered on the wide angle area (16mm equivalent in 24x36 !) than Pentax, and with HTS device, you have tilt and shift on every lens except the 120 macro. Long range is limited to 300mm (200mm equivalent in 24x36), or 510mm with extender (340mm equivalent in 24x36), I think it is enough in most cases.
The H6 camera is a joy to use, ergonomics are ultra simple and functional. Image quality is beyond what I have with the 645Z, no question.
Pentax has lots of tricks, that's obvious, but I don't feel limited at all with the H6.
Weather sealing ? Well, there is a trap with Pentax : the body is (and perfectly !), but not all the lenses. The vast majority of lenses is old and not weather sealed. I can do with 28-45, 55, and 90mm lenses, but that's all (25mm too I think, but I don't have it). On Hasselblad H, there is no official weather sealing, although it will survive a light rain. But if the conditions are dangerous, I'll take the Pentax without hesitation, but with selected lenses only.
The H6D-100c has a 54x40mm made by Sony (only manufacturer in town for MF, if you exclude the strange Leica S system). So it is much closer to old 645 film (really 56x42) than 44x33mm, I would say.
One last thing : you can put a film back on the H6 to make 645 pictures... that can be fun.
Last edited by SylvainB; 07-15-2021 at 02:48 AM.