[tuco]

Well, this is becoming very painful for me. This is the last you'll be seeing of me on this thresd. Adios, muchachos !

No don't take it personally. I see good color from your K1 pictures. So lets figure out what's going on with the Z pictures.

[RICHARD L.]

Pentax 645Z pictures : Can't we simply have very pure water in Canada ?

[riffraffselbow]

your 645z pictures certainly have a ton of contrast and color to them, but I'd hesitate to call it "bad" or weird or whatever; it's just a style. It's a little out of favor at the moment, I think partly because it makes people think of the olden days of poorly-made HDR composites flooding flickr, circa.... 2008 or so? The images are very graphic and give me a feeling of, like, slide film or a 90s national geographic. I wouldn't necessarily want the files I get "out of the camera" to look like this (I'd suspect it's clipping away some information in the highlights and shadows that I could use) but as a published image, I see nothing wrong with it.

[mikeSF]

Lots of great examples posted there, Richard. thanks!

[RICHARD L.]

Sorry for having had this tantrum. I am painfully aware of my color vision shortcomings. I would give a fortune just to be able to see the world around me like normal people do for just 5 minutes.

Best Regards to you all.

[barondla]

Pentax 645Z pictures : Can't we simply have very pure water in Canada ?

Superb images. You have your own style. That's a good thing.


Fujifilm added a 13th Film Simulation mode to the GFX 100s. Nostalgic Negative is based on the look championed by American color film photographer Stephen Shore. Fuji claims this hasn't made it to their APS-c cameras because a larger sensor is needed to reproduce the colors.

Keep posting photos,

barondla

[RICHARD L.]

Should we call this "THE BATISCAN BLUES ?"

Batiscan River with the K1 + DFA 70-200 mm f/2.8

Batiscan River with the K3 + HD DA 55-300 mm ED

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[Jonathan Mac]

Superb images. You have your own style. That's a good thing.





Fujifilm added a 13th Film Simulation mode to the GFX 100s. Nostalgic Negative is based on the look championed by American color film photographer Stephen Shore. Fuji claims this hasn't made it to their APS-c cameras because a larger sensor is needed to reproduce the colors.



Keep posting photos,



barondla

Larger sensor my a*se, it's the same as other firmware updates that aren't fixes - you need to form out for a new camera roll get it.

[kaseki]

Since you brought it up, Richard L., I'll make a comment from my point of view.

Normally, deep clear water has a blue color, somewhat darker (slightly more toward the violet) than your Batiscan images. What I would expect from a shallow river is partially a reflection of the sky and partially transmission of sun, clouds, and sky reflected off of whatever colors the stones are below the water surface, modified by the transmission of the water, which peaks somewhere near 532nm (green), depending on salt, silt, and vegetative content. Your blue seems so dominant that it is blocking transmission from shallow depths as if it were a blue dye saturating the water. I would expect this water to look bluish gray with some tan.

If you took one of these Batascan images and reduced blue little-by-little, would the underlying stream substrate show through?

So while the images look pretty and appealing, they don't look like running stream and falls waters I've seen, albeit I haven't seen any in Canada other than Niagara Falls, which is typically more turbid and not a good example, and Lake Saint-Jean, which was not such a bright blue at the time I visited.

kas, who was once color tested and could see the numbers on all the images used for the Ishihara test, FWIW

[RICHARD L.]

Hello and thank you for your positive comments.

I plan to return to my Batiscan shooting site as soon as I can (a 90 minute drive from my home) and I will shoot tripod-mounted sunlit pictures with the 645Z using all the available color palettes to compare the resulting color of the river. I will take along the K3 + DA 18-135 mm ED WR and try it also with all the different palettes. I will post all my comparative results.

We have several "Black Rivers" in Quebec, a tribute to the pristine water quality of the watercourses on the northern shore of the Saint Lawrence.

Best Regards

[RICHARD L.]

Pentax 645Z on tripod with a 645 FA 45-85 mm f/4.5 zoom set at 45 mm FL, 1/200 sec @ f/11. Only "VIBRANT", "REVERSAL FILM", "BRIGHT", "NATURAL" and "LANDSCAPE" modes are really adapted to landscape photography. Personally, I always use the "VIBRANT" palette. A couple of these palettes are totally useless for my needs. And, yes, this river is really deep blue in sunny weather conditions.

Check EXIF to see which color palette each picture was made with.

[barondla]

Pentax 645Z on tripod with a 645 FA 45-85 mm f/4.5 zoom set at 45 mm FL, 1/200 sec @ f/11. Only "VIBRANT", "REVERSAL FILM", "BRIGHT", "NATURAL" and "LANDSCAPE" modes are really adapted to landscape photography. Personally, I always use the "VIBRANT" palette. A couple of these palettes are totally useless for my needs. And, yes, this river is really deep blue in sunny weather conditions.

Check EXIF to see which color palette each picture was made with.

Neat to see all the choices compared. There's a thread where the in camera presets are adjusted for custom looks. It is very interesting.

Thanks for sharing,
barondla

[kaseki]

Given that most natural and most artistic are not required to be equal, my impression of naturalness is as follows:

Viewed on a BenQ SW2700 in Adobe RGB, I'm going to assume that Natural and Portrait are what I would see looking at that river at those moments. These two are very close, but I think Portrait vegetation is a bit more 'Fuji' relative to Natural. Muted looks like a more typical river, albeit somewhat, er, muted, but its trees seem to me to be the most natural looking color and saturation. Of course, not having been there, with this PC in hand to compare, qualitative assertions about color reality is a rather optimistic effort. I'll need to compare how they look on an OLED TV screen to see if these impressions hold.

In any case, Richard L., thanks for this effort.

[Sandy Hancock]

Can just I remind everyone that this thread is about the 67 105/2.4, not about any particular person's particular processing preferences?

Personally, I think this lens does have something special to offer, and I'd be very interested to try it on both the 645Z and the K-1.

[RICHARD L.]

Indeed, the P67 105 mm f/2.4 ranks among my very best lenses on the 645Z. We digressed on color palettes because someone found the blue of this river, should we say, questionable. I photographed this river with the 105 mm once but in overcast conditions ... Sorry !