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08-24-2014, 02:50 AM   #5596
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Another from the same location, but slightly different position, looking towards the steelworks of Port Talbot

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08-24-2014, 08:47 AM   #5597
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Not as dramatic, but serene rolling English countryside:



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Takumar 105/2.4
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(better large on black!)
08-24-2014, 11:33 AM - 1 Like   #5598
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nice work, folks.

I just got around to processing this multi frame HDR pano

Delta Sunset

with some story and details on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeoria/15019164651/
645D & FA 150
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An old Velvia shot I just processed. Pentax 67II, 45mm.

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08-24-2014, 04:06 PM - 1 Like   #5600
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Country Rain. I captured this image yesterday on a drive through the country with my girlfriend. I noticed this scene as I was driving past, I quickly turned the car around to capture it. It was pouring with rain and the rainbows were fading quickly. I got soaked as well as my camera getting this picture, and it was a battle not getting water on the front element.
645Z + 35A - Handheld.

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"Graceful", with Benazir. This is something a little different for me... I very rarely photograph people as the main subject.

Pentax 645Z, 67 105mm f/2.4. Available light -- 1/80s @ f/8, ISO 400. Manual focus, manual exposure, hand-held.
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08-24-2014, 08:23 PM   #5602
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QuoteOriginally posted by Royce Howland Quote
"Graceful", with Benazir. This is something a little different for me... I very rarely photograph people as the main subject.

Pentax 645Z, 67 105mm f/2.4. Available light -- 1/80s @ f/8, ISO 400. Manual focus, manual exposure, hand-held.
Nice image mate, how do you find the 67 105mm on the Z.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LaHo Quote
The Pentax 645N and 645N II are practically identical. The viewfinder is exactly the same. AF and metering are the same. The N II version came out just a few years after the 645N and incorporated some very minor changes that make it possible for the user to enable some settings that only can be set by a service mechanic on the 645N like 15 or 16 images to a roll*), 1/2 or 1/3 aperture steps in auto, the frame counter counts down instead of up and the like. Both have imprinting of exposure data and focal length on the edge of the film, but the II version has a bit more information (and smaller characters that can be at bit harder to read).
The 645N has a shiny exterior finish, and the 645N II has a very nice satin finish.
Button layout is practically identical and handling therefore the same.
Information in the viewfinder is the same: focus confirmation, F-stop, shutter speed plus bracketing and exposure compensation (if acitvated). Frame number and iso are only shown on the top display.

The major difference: 645N II has MLU, the 645N and the 645 do not. Some say MLU isn't necessary, as the mirror is very well dampened in all three 645 cameras. That is true, in my opinion, and I have rarely used it. (I forget it's there.)

I have set my 645N II to the same settings as the sister 645N, so the custom settings have little use for me.

The original 645 (the one with buttons instead of the two prominent knobs on either side of the viewfinder) has less information in the viewfinder (only shutter speed and F-stop), no imprint of data on the film, less ergonomical handling with buttons, a dimmer viewfinder and - most importantly - no auto focus.
So it's the 80'ies version of the 645 that has a dimmer viewfinder and buttons instead of knobs, but it is still a great camera. The viewfinder is still large and bright compared to a 35mm camera. If one only intends to use A-lenses, it's perfectly all right. If you want to use FA-lenses and auto focus, either the 645N or the 645N II are the ones to choose. The N II is only necessary if MLU is important to you.

As I have set my N II to handle exactly like the N version (so that I can use them side by side) and rarely use MLU, I think either one is good. If the 645N is easier to find (and it is) and cheaper than the 645N II (it regularly is), go for the 645N. It's a great camera.

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*) The original 645 can only take 15 images on a 120 roll, but on the 645N/N II the default setting is 16. Some maintained that the film would curl around some of the sharp bends in the film backs, and with the closer spacing necessary for 16 images to a roll, this curl could create cause unsharpness (uneven film plane). Therefore there is an option to revert to the 15 images to a roll setting on the 645N and N II. I have never experienced any unsharpness due to film curl and shoot 16 images to a roll on both my cameras. (With 15 images to a roll, the curl (if any) will never be in the image area.)
I think some other 645 cameras (like Contax) have had problems with the film not being held perfectly flat, but not the Pentax 645s.
That is perhaps one advantage to the film backs not being interchangeable in mid-roll. There are no dark slides on the Pentax 645 backs, so the film is held tight against rails in the camera just like on a 35 mm camera.

[Edit:] One more point: the 645N II has 'half speed steps in M and Tv': "The shutter speed dial between 1/1000 and 4 S can be set to half step by pressing the up/down button. The set shutter speed will be displayed in the LCD panel and in the viewfinder".
This could be of interest for those who shoot mostly color landscapes on slide film.
Many Thanks!! most comprehensive explanation available!
One more question that I couldn't find answer: do either of them have focus confirmation when using manual lenses (like 645 A lens or adapted 67 lens)?

again, many thanks!

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Yes, the both have focus confirmation when using A-lenses

QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
Many Thanks!! most comprehensive explanation available!
One more question that I couldn't find answer: do either of them have focus confirmation when using manual lenses (like 645 A lens or adapted 67 lens)?

again, many thanks!
Yes, both the 645N and the 645N II have focus confirmation in the viewfinder when using manual A-lenses. This focus confirmation also works perfectly on both cameras when using a 6x7-lens via a 6x7 to 645 adapter. I only have the Fotodiox adapter, but this and the original Pentax 6x7 to 645 adapter should work the same way.

Incidentally, the ON/OFF-switch on both cameras has two ON-settings: one for focus confirmation with audio beep and one for silent focus confirmation. Practical if the beep could be a nuisance.

I have one correction to make to my original post: I wrote that one user enabled setting was "1/2 or 1/3 aperture steps in auto", but it should read "EV compensation in 1/2 or 1/3 EV steps". Sorry about that.

See page 76 of the user manual: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/pentax/pentax_645nii/pentax_645nii.htm

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Here are two from London:

Pentax 645Z DA 25 f/4



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This morning..in the rain

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A-120MM iso 100 6 secs F16

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QuoteOriginally posted by Thomasbrowphoto Quote
Nice image mate, how do you find the 67 105mm on the Z.
It's just fine. I used it on the D as well. As long as you've got time to dial in the focus, it doesn't disappoint in any way that I've seen so far. I have no idea what the edges are like on a full frame 67 negative but with the smaller 645D/Z sensor it seems lovely from edge to edge, to me. This focal length is nice for portraiture, though I don't do a lot of that type of work. If I had the money for the 645 90mm Macro, that would be nicer, perhaps, in terms of auto-focus and stabilization. But considering I got the 67 105mm for about $150 and the wonderful rendering this lens has, there's no way to beat it bang-for-buck.
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itshimitis, i love that first London shot - a great exposure!

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this is from March, but I just got around to processing it today.

from that same beach where I broke a toe falling off a ledge:

Four Mile Beach

645D & 67 105/2.4
see it on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeoria/14848909419/in/photostream/
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