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07-12-2018, 02:23 PM   #12241
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
I upload to Flickr at full res and then use the BB code (usually the largest of the "medium" settings) to post here. You may not need to upload full res as you're shooting digital MF but I find that letting Flickr do the downsizing is fine.
Thanks Jonathan. The forum mustn't like low res photo attachments. This was from my computer and It must resize it or something which turns it into soft mishy-mush. So I went over to Flickr and set up an account. Uploaded a test image but again only a lower res image. That looks bad also. I'm reluctant to upload full res images so I might be stuck. Thanks for replying.

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Wow, obsessed with this
Thanks jadeyphoto.....I think. Obsessed with the sea cave photo - good - thank you, or my inability to post a sharp image - my bad.

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The photo of course, also, images don't need to be sharp to be great

QuoteOriginally posted by Richard Longseth Quote
Thanks Jonathan. The forum mustn't like low res photo attachments. This was from my computer and It must resize it or something which turns it into soft mishy-mush. So I went over to Flickr and set up an account. Uploaded a test image but again only a lower res image. That looks bad also. I'm reluctant to upload full res images so I might be stuck. Thanks for replying.

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Thanks jadeyphoto.....I think. Obsessed with the sea cave photo - good - thank you, or my inability to post a sharp image - my bad.
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That's an awesome shot. Is that the LaSalle st. bridge? Brave.
Yes, very good. We had just finished eating at River Roast restaurant and had a very fine meal there.

And, thank you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Richard Longseth Quote
Thanks Jonathan. The forum mustn't like low res photo attachments. This was from my computer and It must resize it or something which turns it into soft mishy-mush. So I went over to Flickr and set up an account. Uploaded a test image but again only a lower res image. That looks bad also. I'm reluctant to upload full res images so I might be stuck. Thanks for replying.
Did you know that you can post a full size image to Flickr, set it to private (so only you can see it), but still use the BB code to post it here at the size required (thus using Flickr's resizing)? And no one else can see or grab your nice large file from Flickr. Unless it gets hacked, I suppose.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kaseki Quote
Perhaps 're-purposing' in 'Mer'kan English? (In other words, 'plasticity' and 'malleability' do not seem appropriate to describe any of the features that I see. These words are usually applied to the resistance of materials to deformation.)
Plastic arts - Wikipedia

It's a completely normal word to use when discussing art and space.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Richard Longseth Quote
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I have a question about posting images on Pentax Forums..... How do I do it to make the photos look good? I usually save images at 900 or 1000 pixels on the vertical side and the couple places I have posted on the web they appear correct, but here they turn to mush. I stopped posting photos long ago because they look so bad on this platform. Yet, when I look at others such as Michiel's (Sculptormic) images they are sharp and crisp. Do I need to upload larger files or ????? I'm doing something wrong. Thanks for any advice.
I agree. The one image I posted here looked so bad I've never tried again. Looked fine on my monitor. I know there's some trick to it---and one that doesn't involve Flikr, please!

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Richard, I used to use Flickr but my account got lost when BT Internet and Yahoo parted ways. The Flickr way works well, but so do other approaches. I now use my Pentax albums as a conduit to forum image sharing.

There are two ways I prepare images for the forum. Using photoshop CS6 and/or Lightroom.

1. Export an image from lightroom at 1280px long edge sized to max 999kb, with export sharpening 'standard'. Import the image to a forum album, copy the BB code from the album into the forum post.

2. In photoshop resize to 1280 long edge and 300pixel/inch. Create a copy image in PS and convert it to a smart object. Add gaussian blur at about level 7, modify the blur to obscity value 9 in the smart object. Smart sharpen at 0.2 pixels radius and level 200. Reduce opacity of sharpening in smart object until sharpening artefacts minimise in 100% view. Flatten the image and export for Web at a max file size of 999kb. Import to album and share as above.

QuoteOriginally posted by Richard Longseth Quote
Thanks Jonathan. The forum mustn't like low res photo attachments. This was from my computer and It must resize it or something which turns it into soft mishy-mush. So I went over to Flickr and set up an account. Uploaded a test image but again only a lower res image. That looks bad also. I'm reluctant to upload full res images so I might be stuck. Thanks for replying.

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Thanks jadeyphoto.....I think. Obsessed with the sea cave photo - good - thank you, or my inability to post a sharp image - my bad.
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Plastic arts - Wikipedia

It's a completely normal word to use when discussing art and space.
Thanks. I stand better informed, although the Wikipedia article could have been more descriptive with respect to examples in architecture and photography.
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Thanks. I stand better informed, although the Wikipedia article could have been more descriptive with respect to examples in architecture and photography.
You'll find that a lot of terms used in art historical/critical cases are rather wobbly. Anti-arts people use this as evidence that the arts are a bunch of BS and all just a matter of opinion, embroidered with a lot of la-dee-da terminology. In fact it is evidence of several other things:
  • The general difficulty of using one medium ( verbal language) to describe another (any of the other non-verbal arts). Criticism is generally at its best when describing something in its own medium. Describing the visual arts with verbal language will always be a struggle, for eternity.
  • Legacy language that is still used, or has an important history behind it, from earlier periods that today is problematic. Everything evolves, including criticism and the language used to produce it. Thus we have both an historical "problem" and a moving target "problem", because this evolution is not static.
  • The fact that in the arts there are rarely black and white answers to questions (save the mechanical ones, like which pigment was used, who owned this work, etc.), for a variety of reasons, a list too long for these forums.
  • The parlous state of arts education. This includes non-existent arts education; wooly-headed "art is for everyone" types of "group-hug" educational thinking; dogmatic, x-y-centric (fill in your x-y values as you please, as in "euro" or "phallo", etc) and/or fashion of the day types of educational tropes at the higher levels of academe and museums; and more, but those are the big 3.
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QuoteOriginally posted by texandrews Quote
[LIST][*]The general difficulty of using one medium ( verbal language) to describe another (any of the other non-verbal arts). Criticism is generally at its best when describing something in its own medium. Describing the visual arts with verbal language will always be a struggle, for eternity.
As someone said (attribution unknown):

Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
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QuoteOriginally posted by abruzzi Quote
As someone said (attribution unknown):

Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
And Goethe (perhaps not originally) said that architecture is frozen music; music is liquid architecture. And there's validity to such pithy maxims. But the "dancing about architecture" maxim seems (to me) based on an idea of equivalence between all expressive media. That's silly. Just try dancing about architecture some time, and see how far you get at communicating anything coherent.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ed Hurst Quote
Did you know that you can post a full size image to Flickr, set it to private (so only you can see it), but still use the BB code to post it here at the size required (thus using Flickr's resizing)? And no one else can see or grab your nice large file from Flickr. Unless it gets hacked, I suppose.
Thanks Ed. No, I didn't know that. I'm not sure why, but I never gravitated to Flickr, so never learned how to use its features. Since large files can be protected as you pointed out, I think I will continue to explore and learn how to use the service. I should have a presence there anyway. Thanks again.

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I agree. The one image I posted here looked so bad I've never tried again.
At least I wasn't the only one that felt that way.

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Richard, I used to use Flickr but my account got lost when BT Internet and Yahoo parted ways. The Flickr way works well, but so do other approaches. I now use my Pentax albums as a conduit to forum image sharing.

There are two ways I prepare images for the forum. Using photoshop CS6 and/or Lightroom.

1. Export an image from lightroom at 1280px long edge sized to max 999kb, with export sharpening 'standard'. Import the image to a forum album, copy the BB code from the album into the forum post.

2. In photoshop resize to 1280 long edge and 300pixel/inch. Create a copy image in PS and convert it to a smart object. Add gaussian blur at about level 7, modify the blur to obscity value 9 in the smart object. Smart sharpen at 0.2 pixels radius and level 200. Reduce opacity of sharpening in smart object until sharpening artefacts minimise in 100% view. Flatten the image and export for Web at a max file size of 999kb. Import to album and share as above.
Thanks Unkipunki for your workflow - recipes. I think I will try Flickr first, but I will certainly earmark this and try them out for comparison. I do use an Action to sharpen my photos for the web that works pretty well, but I think working through it as you presented it can only help with my skill level. Thanks.

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