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**mattb123** · 06-28-2018, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by unkipunki

It's been quite a while since I posted anything of my own on here. These were taken last night with the Z and the Pentax 645 A 200. I really think the lens lineup could do with a modern design in and around 200mm, but this lens can produce acceptable results in post.

These two shots are of a estuary of the River Add flowing into Loch Crinan with the mountains of Mull in the distance.

During Golden Hour

45 minutes later

Those are really nice!
I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine.

---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 09:49 AM ----------

Originally posted by Bonner04

This camera has a fixed 45mm lens that gives about 28mm equivalent with 645. For me it is an ideal
travel camera for when you want to include big things from a relatively small camera.

(For those that have not been here, one cannot backup any from this point unless you shoot from a boat on
on the Detroit River.)

General Motors Headquarters
Detroit, Michigan
FujiFilm GA645wi Pro, Fuji 45mm f/4.0, Kodak Portra 400
f/13 1/350 ASA 400 May 31, 2018

You also wouldn't want to back up too far and wind up in the wrong neighborhood!

I grew up about 45 Miles from there in Ann Arbor.

That's a great shot! I love the way you framed it.

**unkipunki** · 06-28-2018, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by mattb123

Those are really nice!
I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine.

It is not an bad lens as such, but I don't love the rendering much. A distinct lack of contrast. More due to the coatings than the glass I suspect. I can add it back in on post, but it is not as natural as getting it captured at the start of the process

**ivanvernon** · 06-28-2018, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by mattb123

Those are really nice!
I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine.

---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 09:49 AM ----------

You also wouldn't want to back up too far and wind up in the wrong neighborhood!

I grew up about 45 Miles from there in Ann Arbor.

That's a great shot! I love the way you framed it.

The A-200 is an okay lens, but the FA-200 is a great lens. I greatly prefer the FA version even though I am not much of a fan of automatic focussing. The A and FA versions have completely different optics.
SMC Pentax-FA 645 200mm F4 [IF] Reviews - 645 Telephoto Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

**Ed Hurst** · 06-28-2018, 09:51 AM

Having tried the 645A, the 645FA and the final version 6x7 200mm, I am of the opinion that this focal length is not superbly served on the system. Agree with ivanvernon's comment that, with the better lenses, the contrast can be 'fixed' in post, there just isn't a lens that seems quite able to keep pace with what the 645Z (and modern film emulsions) can offer. Not that it can't be compensated for so that the results are ok, but who buys a medium format camera because they are happy with 'ok'?

**unkipunki** · 06-28-2018, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Ed Hurst

Having tried the 645A, the 645FA and the final version 6x7 200mm, I am of the opinion that this focal length is not superbly served on the system. Agree with ivanvernon's comment that, with the better lenses, the contrast can be 'fixed' in post, there just isn't a lens that seems quite able to keep pace with what the 645Z (and modern film emulsions) can offer. Not that it can't be compensated for so that the results are ok, but who buys a medium format camera because they are happy with 'ok'?

I just bought a 67 200 late version on eBay in the hope it will give me better results than the A 200. It won't get here for a while. How do you find yours in comparison to the other two?

**Ed Hurst** · 06-28-2018, 11:05 AM

I think it's the best of the bunch IMHO, but still not stellar

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:06 AM ----------

The picture I posted recently with the San Fran skyline above some wooden posts in the water was taken with that lens

**Ed Hurst** · 06-28-2018, 12:16 PM - **7 Likes**

A little more San Fran

645Z with 28-45mm DA lens @ 45mm
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645Z with 6x7 200mm f4
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645Z with 6x7 300mm f4 EDIF
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mikeSF · 06-28-2018, 01:30 PM

These are spectacular! I especially could look at that first one all day long. Sweet well composed frame.

Originally posted by unkipunki

It's been quite a while since I posted anything of my own on here. These were taken last night with the Z and the Pentax 645 A 200. I really think the lens lineup could do with a modern design in and around 200mm, but this lens can produce acceptable results in post.

These two shots are of a estuary of the River Add flowing into Loch Crinan with the mountains of Mull in the distance.

During Golden Hour

45 minutes later

---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 01:33 PM ----------

Never heard of that town, but holy crap did you shoot some gorgeous pics there!
Love em all and really like the details on the tight bridge angle as well as the fog about to lay down over VA Hospital.
Great stuff, Ed.

Originally posted by Ed Hurst

A little more San Fran

645Z with 28-45mm DA lens @ 45mm
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645Z with 6x7 200mm f4
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645Z with 6x7 300mm f4 EDIF
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Ditto
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**unkipunki** · 06-28-2018, 02:29 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mikeSF

These are spectacular! I especially could look at that first one all day long. Sweet well composed frame.

Thank you, it is a compositional gimme. It was unusually hard to take pics rather than just take the 2 hour sunset in old school.

---------- Post added 28-06-18 at 22:33 ----------

Originally posted by Ed Hurst

I think it's the best of the bunch IMHO, but still not stellar. The picture I posted recently with the San Fran skyline above some wooden posts in the water was taken with that lens

Thanks for the feedback. To take this a little further, on PF the wooden post pic looks great. I know you need good or great to get that good at 1280px long edge here. But if you wanted to print very large could the 6x7 smc 200mm rise to the challenge?

**Ed Hurst** · 06-28-2018, 03:37 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mikeSF

Never heard of that town, but holy crap did you shoot some gorgeous pics there!
Love em all and really like the details on the tight bridge angle as well as the fog about to lay down over VA Hospital.
Great stuff, Ed.

Well, I wouldn't have got them without help from a certain chap you know quite well... Thanks, Mike!

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 08:39 AM ----------

Originally posted by unkipunki

Thanks for the feedback. To take this a little further, on PF the wooden post pic looks great. I know you need good or great to get that good at 1280px long edge here. But if you wanted to print very large could the 6x7 smc 200mm rise to the challenge?

I think it would be fine with the right processing... But it could be better!

jadeyphoto · 06-29-2018, 12:36 PM

Is anyone here in contact with Ricoh? I found out that the Pentax professional program was disbanded and I'm curious if there are any plans to implement or start anything new. Customer service at Ricoh has been clueless.

**Ed Hurst** · 06-30-2018, 07:18 AM - **9 Likes**

OK, I have probably been overdoing the San Francisco posts, so I'll make this the last one!

645Z with 6x7 75mm f2.8AL
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645Z with 28-45mm DA f4.5 @ 32mm
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645Z with 120mm f4 A with big stopper and 3 stop ND
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645Z with 28-45mm DA f4.5 @ 28mm
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Jonathan Mac · 06-30-2018, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Ed Hurst

OK, I have probably been overdoing the San Francisco posts, so I'll make this the last one!

The stork image is fantastic.

itshimitis · 06-30-2018, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

The stork image is fantastic.

Indeed as are the others. Ed, how did you get the stork to stay still for so long?

**Ed Hurst** · 06-30-2018, 12:05 PM

Thanks, guys! Firstly (sorry to be pedantic), it's a pelican ;-) As for how, well, I didn't. It was still for a very long time, but not quite long enough. I ended up with a ghosted version of the bird. However, I had anticipated that might happen and took a shot of it still without the filters first. So was able to composite the static bird onto the ghosted version to tidy it up.

06-28-2018, 12:16 PM - 7 Likes	#12142
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	A little more San Fran 645Z with 28-45mm DA lens @ 45mm [IMG][/IMG] 645Z with 6x7 200mm f4 [IMG][/IMG] 645Z with 6x7 300mm f4 EDIF [IMG][/IMG] Ditto [IMG][/IMG]

06-30-2018, 07:18 AM - 9 Likes	#12147
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	OK, I have probably been overdoing the San Francisco posts, so I'll make this the last one! 645Z with 6x7 75mm f2.8AL [IMG][/IMG] 645Z with 28-45mm DA f4.5 @ 32mm [IMG][/IMG] 645Z with 120mm f4 A with big stopper and 3 stop ND [IMG][/IMG] 645Z with 28-45mm DA f4.5 @ 28mm [IMG][/IMG]

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06-28-2018, 08:45 AM	#12136
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,872	Originally posted by unkipunki It's been quite a while since I posted anything of my own on here. These were taken last night with the Z and the Pentax 645 A 200. I really think the lens lineup could do with a modern design in and around 200mm, but this lens can produce acceptable results in post. These two shots are of a estuary of the River Add flowing into Loch Crinan with the mountains of Mull in the distance. During Golden Hour 45 minutes later Those are really nice! I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine. ---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 09:49 AM ---------- Originally posted by Bonner04 This camera has a fixed 45mm lens that gives about 28mm equivalent with 645. For me it is an ideal travel camera for when you want to include big things from a relatively small camera. (For those that have not been here, one cannot backup any from this point unless you shoot from a boat on on the Detroit River.) General Motors Headquarters Detroit, Michigan FujiFilm GA645wi Pro, Fuji 45mm f/4.0, Kodak Portra 400 f/13 1/350 ASA 400 May 31, 2018 You also wouldn't want to back up too far and wind up in the wrong neighborhood! I grew up about 45 Miles from there in Ann Arbor. That's a great shot! I love the way you framed it.

06-28-2018, 08:57 AM	#12137
unkipunki Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Lochaweside, Argyll Photos: Gallery Posts: 615	Originally posted by mattb123 Those are really nice! I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine. It is not an bad lens as such, but I don't love the rendering much. A distinct lack of contrast. More due to the coatings than the glass I suspect. I can add it back in on post, but it is not as natural as getting it captured at the start of the process

06-28-2018, 09:12 AM	#12138
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Originally posted by mattb123 Those are really nice! I know the A 200 isn't one of the highest reviewed lenses but I always seem to get pretty good results when I use mine. ---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 09:49 AM ---------- You also wouldn't want to back up too far and wind up in the wrong neighborhood! I grew up about 45 Miles from there in Ann Arbor. That's a great shot! I love the way you framed it. The A-200 is an okay lens, but the FA-200 is a great lens. I greatly prefer the FA version even though I am not much of a fan of automatic focussing. The A and FA versions have completely different optics. SMC Pentax-FA 645 200mm F4 [IF] Reviews - 645 Telephoto Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

06-28-2018, 09:51 AM	#12139
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	Having tried the 645A, the 645FA and the final version 6x7 200mm, I am of the opinion that this focal length is not superbly served on the system. Agree with ivanvernon's comment that, with the better lenses, the contrast can be 'fixed' in post, there just isn't a lens that seems quite able to keep pace with what the 645Z (and modern film emulsions) can offer. Not that it can't be compensated for so that the results are ok, but who buys a medium format camera because they are happy with 'ok'?

06-28-2018, 10:01 AM	#12140
unkipunki Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Lochaweside, Argyll Photos: Gallery Posts: 615	Originally posted by Ed Hurst Having tried the 645A, the 645FA and the final version 6x7 200mm, I am of the opinion that this focal length is not superbly served on the system. Agree with ivanvernon's comment that, with the better lenses, the contrast can be 'fixed' in post, there just isn't a lens that seems quite able to keep pace with what the 645Z (and modern film emulsions) can offer. Not that it can't be compensated for so that the results are ok, but who buys a medium format camera because they are happy with 'ok'? I just bought a 67 200 late version on eBay in the hope it will give me better results than the A 200. It won't get here for a while. How do you find yours in comparison to the other two?

06-28-2018, 11:05 AM	#12141
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	I think it's the best of the bunch IMHO, but still not stellar ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:06 AM ---------- The picture I posted recently with the San Fran skyline above some wooden posts in the water was taken with that lens

06-28-2018, 01:30 PM	#12143
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,620	These are spectacular! I especially could look at that first one all day long. Sweet well composed frame. Originally posted by unkipunki It's been quite a while since I posted anything of my own on here. These were taken last night with the Z and the Pentax 645 A 200. I really think the lens lineup could do with a modern design in and around 200mm, but this lens can produce acceptable results in post. These two shots are of a estuary of the River Add flowing into Loch Crinan with the mountains of Mull in the distance. During Golden Hour 45 minutes later ---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 01:33 PM ---------- Never heard of that town, but holy crap did you shoot some gorgeous pics there! Love em all and really like the details on the tight bridge angle as well as the fog about to lay down over VA Hospital. Great stuff, Ed. Originally posted by Ed Hurst A little more San Fran 645Z with 28-45mm DA lens @ 45mm [/url][/IMG] 645Z with 6x7 200mm f4 [/url][/IMG] 645Z with 6x7 300mm f4 EDIF [/url][/IMG] Ditto [/url][/IMG]

06-28-2018, 02:29 PM - 1 Like	#12144
unkipunki Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Lochaweside, Argyll Photos: Gallery Posts: 615	Originally posted by mikeSF These are spectacular! I especially could look at that first one all day long. Sweet well composed frame. Thank you, it is a compositional gimme. It was unusually hard to take pics rather than just take the 2 hour sunset in old school. ---------- Post added 28-06-18 at 22:33 ---------- Originally posted by Ed Hurst I think it's the best of the bunch IMHO, but still not stellar. The picture I posted recently with the San Fran skyline above some wooden posts in the water was taken with that lens Thanks for the feedback. To take this a little further, on PF the wooden post pic looks great. I know you need good or great to get that good at 1280px long edge here. But if you wanted to print very large could the 6x7 smc 200mm rise to the challenge?

06-28-2018, 03:37 PM - 1 Like	#12145
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by mikeSF Never heard of that town, but holy crap did you shoot some gorgeous pics there! Love em all and really like the details on the tight bridge angle as well as the fog about to lay down over VA Hospital. Great stuff, Ed. Well, I wouldn't have got them without help from a certain chap you know quite well... Thanks, Mike! ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 08:39 AM ---------- Originally posted by unkipunki Thanks for the feedback. To take this a little further, on PF the wooden post pic looks great. I know you need good or great to get that good at 1280px long edge here. But if you wanted to print very large could the 6x7 smc 200mm rise to the challenge? I think it would be fine with the right processing... But it could be better!

06-29-2018, 12:36 PM	#12146
jadeyphoto New Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Is anyone here in contact with Ricoh? I found out that the Pentax professional program was disbanded and I'm curious if there are any plans to implement or start anything new. Customer service at Ricoh has been clueless.

06-30-2018, 09:16 AM	#12148
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,894	Originally posted by Ed Hurst OK, I have probably been overdoing the San Francisco posts, so I'll make this the last one! The stork image is fantastic.

06-30-2018, 11:59 AM	#12149
itshimitis Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: All over the place Posts: 3,535	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac The stork image is fantastic. Indeed as are the others. Ed, how did you get the stork to stay still for so long?

06-30-2018, 12:05 PM	#12150
Ed Hurst Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,657	Thanks, guys! Firstly (sorry to be pedantic), it's a pelican ;-) As for how, well, I didn't. It was still for a very long time, but not quite long enough. I ended up with a ghosted version of the bird. However, I had anticipated that might happen and took a shot of it still without the filters first. So was able to composite the static bird onto the ghosted version to tidy it up.