Pentax interview collection - Pentax interview list

Pentax interview collection - Pentax interview list · **18 Likes**

The amount of Pentax interviews in the past is enough to build an own list:

2019-11 - Philippe Farreng, (General Sales Manager for Ricoh Europe) @ Pentax Café (phototrend.fr) - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/397871-interview-r...er-europe.html
2019-05 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/387227-imaging-res...interview.html
2019-05 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2019/05/14/ricoh-interview-sub-frame-medium-format-dslr-coming-mirrorless-will-return
2019-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/cpplus-2019/cp-plus-2019-pentax-interview.html2019-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0fjj9tCWVQ
2019-01 - Nippon Camera magazine - Nippon Camera Ricoh/Pentax 2019 Interview - PentaxForums.com
2019-01 - Nippon Camera magazine - News on the Pentax 645 front---Japanese magazine interview - PentaxForums.com

2018-10 - PhotoPlus - PhotoPlus 2018: Pentax Interview and Report - Trade Shows | PentaxForums.com
2018-09 - photokina - Interview with Ricoh Imaging - Photokina 2018 - Photokina 2018 | PentaxForums.com
2018-09 - Wolfgang Baus (Product Manager & Group Leader Marketing D/A/CH, Ricoh Imaging Deutschland) @ photokina (The Pentaxians) - 46 min Interview with Ricoh's Mr. Baus (in German) from Photokina 2018
2018-09 - photokina (The Pentaxians) - Pentaxians Public Group | Facebook
2018-09 - photokina (The Pentaxians) -

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2018-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - CP+ 2018 Pentax Interview - CP+ 2018 | PentaxForums.com
2018-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) -

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2018-03 - CP+ (DPReview) - DPReview's interview with Ricoh Imaging - PentaxForums.com
2018-03 - CP+ (DPReview) - Ricoh interview: "The development of the K-series is our first priority": Digital Photography Review
2018-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Imaging Resource's CP+2018 interview with Ricoh Imaging - PentaxForums.com
2018-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Ricoh @ CP+: Rewarding K-1 fans with a major upgrade, plus what comes next after the K-3 II?

2017-03 - Pentax KP Book (japanese) Insights from Japanese Interview with KP designers - PentaxForums.com
2017-02 - CP+ - CP+ 2017 Pentax Interview: Part 1 - CP+ 2017 | PentaxForums.com
2017-02 - CP+ - CP+ 2017 Pentax Interview: Part 2 - CP+ 2017 | PentaxForums.com

2016-09 - (DPReview) - DPReview: Photokina 2016 interview: Ricoh aims for visual revolution - PentaxForums.com
2016-09 - (DPReview) - Photokina 2016 interview: Ricoh aims for visual revolution: Digital Photography Review
2016-09 - photokina - Photokina 2016 Pentax Interview - Photokina 2016 | PentaxForums.com
2016-04 - Wakashiro Shigeru - Wakashiro Shigeru interview: K1, deep dive technology - PentaxForums.com
2016-04 - Wakashiro Shigeru - Google Translate
2016-03 - CP+ (DC watch) - DC Watch interview with K-1 designers - PentaxForums.com
2016-03 - CP+ (DC watch) - Google Übersetzer
2016-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Imaging Resource: interview "Ricoh Q&A @ CP+ 2016" - PentaxForums.com
2016-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Ricoh Q&A @ CP+ 2016: The Pentax K-1 design story; video feedback solicited; sub-frame lens test update
2016-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - 2016 CP+ Pentax Interview - CP+ 2016 | PentaxForums.com
2016-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - https://youtu.be/gSxy6WhianY&t=129s

2015-03 - Jim Malcom, Pentax President on Medium Format - Interview with Jim Malcom - PentaxForums.com
2015-03 - Jim Malcom, Pentax President on Medium Format - Pentax President on Medium Format, Full Frame Future
2015-03 - (DPReview) - DPR Interview With Ricoh - PentaxForums.com
2015-03 - (DPReview) - CP+ 2015 Ricoh Imaging interview - full-frame DSLR may have 'something extra built-in': Digital Photography Review
2015-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Imaging-Resource Interview With Ricoh - PentaxForums.com
2015-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - CP+ 2015 Interview: Ricoh’s investment in Pentax, full-frame strategy, lens plans and more
2015-02 - CP+ (FOX) - Pentax interview at CES on Fox Business - PentaxForums.com
2015-02 - Kazunobu Saiki & Shigeru Wakashiro @ CP+ (PentaxForums) - 2015 Pentax Interview Transcript - CP+ 2015 | PentaxForums.com
2015-02 - Kazunobu Saiki & Shigeru Wakashiro @ CP+ (PentaxForums) - Exclusive Pentax Interview at CP Plus 2015 - CP+ 2015 | PentaxForums.com
2015-02 - Kazunobu Saiki & Shigeru Wakashiro @ CP+ (PentaxForums) -

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2014-10-27 - John Carlsen (DPReview) - Tune in to DPReview Live this Thursday and Friday: Digital Photography Review
2014-10-27 - John Carlsen (DPReview) -

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2014-09 - Noboru Akahane - Interview with head of Ricoh Imaging - PentaxForums.com
2014-09 - Noboru Akahane - Google Translate
2014-09 - photokina - PF Interview with Ricoh Imaging at Photokina 2014 - Photokina 2014 | PentaxForums.com
2014-06-18 - Wolfgang Baus (Product Manager & Group Leader Marketing D/A/CH, Ricoh Imaging Deutschland) - Digital-Imaging - Markt Wolfgang Baus im Kurzinterview, *
2014-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: IR's Interview with Ricoh Japanse Official of Product Planning
2014-03 - CP+ (Imaging Resource) - Ricoh/Pentax Q&A: Ricoh tech into Pentax cameras, whither full-frame, and lots more
2014-03 - CP+ (DC watch) - Digital Camera Magazine Interview: Comments on Full Frame - PentaxForums.com
2014-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - Reflecting on the CP+ Pentax Interview - CP+ 2014 | PentaxForums.com
2014-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - CP+ 2014 Interview with Pentax in Japan - CP+ 2014 | PentaxForums.com
2014-03 - CP+ (PentaxForums) -

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2014-02 - Thijs Ekelschot & Michel Sangers (Ricoh Imaging Europe) - Ricoh Imaging Europe S.A.S. - Report of a meeting! - PentaxForums.com

2013-12 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (local Hong Kong photo magazine) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: One More Official Interview: No 135 FF in Near Future, Not Before 645D is Replaced! :-o
2013-12 - Kohei Endo (Impress Watch) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Yet Another Inteview with Ricoh Official Published Today! (by DC Watch)
2013-12 - Kohei Endo (Impress Watch) - Google Übersetzer
2013-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (Impress Japan) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Almost Official: 645D Replacement Model is Coming!
2013-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (Impress Japan) - https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news-rumors/insight-into-future-pentax-products.html
2013-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (Impress Japan) - Translation of Kitazawa Interview - PentaxForums.com
2013-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (Impress Japan) - Wayback Machine
2013-10 - (Pentax Russia) - Pentax-Ricoh Russia Answers: FF and Ricoh future - PentaxForums.com
2013-10 - (Pentax Russia) - penta-club.ru/forum/topic/117835-новые-камеры-пентакс-на-2013-год-ждем-и-обсуждаем/page__st__11220__p__1532863#entry1532863
2013-10 - (Pentax Russia) - Google Übersetzer
2013-08 - Shoji Kawahito (qicai.fengniao.com) - https://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2013/08/a-latest-interview-with-japanese-ricoh.html
2013-08 - Shoji Kawahito (qicai.fengniao.com) - Google Translate
2013-07 - Q7/Q10 Designer story (DC watch) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Q7/Q10 Designers' Stories (Interviews)
2013-07 - Q7/Q10 Designer story (DC watch) - Google Übersetzer
2013-04 - P&E (PCPOP.com) - RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: FF Officially Confirmed! Latest Interview with the Head of Pentax Ricoh China at the Chinese P&E 2013
2013-04 - P&E (PCPOP.com) - Google Übersetzer
2013-04 - Jim Malcolm, Executive Vice President, Pentax (Reviewed) - An interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm - PentaxForums.com
2013-04 - Jim Malcolm, Executive Vice President, Pentax (Reviewed) - An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm - Reviewed.com Cameras
2013-04 - Jim Malcolm, Executive Vice President, Pentax (Reviewed) -
2013-02 - CP+ (Tamron) - Interview with Tamron at CP+ - CP+ 2013 | PentaxForums.com
2013-02 - CP+ (Tamron) -

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2013-02 - CP+ (Sigma) - Interview with Sigma at CP+ - CP+ 2013 | PentaxForums.com
2013-02 - CP+ (Sigma) -

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2013-02 - CP+ (FF development) -

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2013-02 - CP+ (FF development) - Pentax Confirms Full-Frame Plans at CP+ - Pentax Rumors | PentaxForums.com
2013-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - CP+ 2013 Interview with Pentax - CP+ 2013 | PentaxForums.com
2013-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) -

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2012-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (DC watch) - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/201538-dc-watch-interview-toshiyuki-kitazawa-pentaxs-head-business-development.html
2012-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (DC watch) - https://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2012/12/full-transcript-of-kitazawas-interview.html
2012-10 - Toshiyuki Kitazawa (DC watch) - https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/interview/564928.html
2012-09 - photokina (onfoto.ru) - One more interview of Shigeru Wakashiro from Photokina (Russian version in English) - PentaxForums.com
2012-09 - photokina (onfoto.ru) - Photokina 2012 -
2012-09 - photokina - Interview with Pentax at Photokina - The Video - Photokina 2012 | PentaxForums.com
2012-09 - photokina - Exclusive Photokina 2012 Interview with Pentax - Photokina 2012 | PentaxForums.com
2012-09 - photokina (PentaxForums) - Photokina Pentax Interview Transcript - Photokina 2012 | PentaxForums.com
2012-09 - photokina (PentaxForums) -

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2012-09 - photokina (Imaging Resource) - Imaging-Resource Pentax/Ricoh interview - PentaxForums.com
2012-09 - photokina (Imaging Resource) - Q&A with Pentax’s John Carlson and Genichiro Takaoka: Is full-frame coming, and what’s next for medium format?
2012-06-03 - The Digital Show (BuynShootcom) -

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2012-02 - Marc Newson (Ricoh Imaging) - Meet the K-01 designer.... (video interview) - PentaxForums.com
2012-02 - Marc Newson (Ricoh Imaging) -

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2012-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) - PentaxForums.com
2012-02 - CP+ (PentaxForums) -

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reh321 · 12-28-2020, 01:41 PM

Pentax may have a choice - invest in “FF” or invest in Medium Format.
Most of the uses that Medium Format was dominant in when I was a child are now “FF” property, so I know what decision I would make.

house · 12-28-2020, 02:01 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Zygonyx

A brand listening to its userbase, what else ?

The translation is as always a bit rough but I actually came away with pretty much the opposite understanding. That you can't listen to users and provide everything the ask for. Quite strange though that the CEO is repeating basically verbatim the arguments made by myself and others about the importance of product focus and experience. Even the examples vinyl records, anti zoom GR for instance have been put forward in several forums. Perhaps we are being monitored more than we thought

This interview gives more insight into the Ricoh imaging thinking than any previous info they've released.

I ran in through deepl.com which usually does better translations than google. See here https://pastebin.com/raw/UvVn40EM use reader view for better experience.

Originally posted by Shinobu Takahashi:

I think that hobby products should not be too much in line with customers who demand convenience.

That's the murder of mushroom shooters demanding flippy screens and other fans of do it all right there

this kind of stuff gives me confidence in Pentax.

Zygonyx · 12-28-2020, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by house

The translation is as always a bit rough but I actually came away with pretty much the opposite understanding. That you can't listen to users and provide everything the ask for. Quite strange though that the CEO is repeating basically verbatim the arguments made by myself and others about the importance of product focus and experience. Even the examples vinyl records, anti zoom GR for instance have been put forward in several forums. Perhaps we are being monitored more than we thought

This interview gives more insight into the Ricoh imaging thinking than any previous info they've released.

Well, i personally had the experience (privilege ?) to be asked by a pretty high ranked RI representative, to forward my argumented opinion on SLR versus ML advantages 2,5 years ago.
I might be wrong, but i do suspect this wasn't wasted time.

**c.a.m** · 12-28-2020, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by angerdan

Ricoh CEO: “Some say Pentax should be mirrorless. I cannot do it.”

I appreciated the interview, despite the typical challenges of automated translation. We get a glimpse into the collaboration between the 'Pentax' and 'Ricoh' sides of the house, and the outlook and vision expressed by Takahashi-san, and his comments on "brand value." I like this guy.

Other sites have picked up on this interview. PetaPixel appears to have mis-interpreted a part of the translation: "In the interview, Takahashi seems to lean heavily into the idea that Ricoh Imaging, which includes Pentax, will continue to develop products that aim for a certain experience while the only end result the company cares about is tack-sharp images." I think the translation "sharp" means keeping the product focused on key goals and objectives.

MIRRORLESS RUMORS says "So really not a lot of info but it’s clear they don’t give a damn about making mirrorless system cameras."

They didn't seem to pick up on any of the nuances of the interview.

Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world?

- Craig

Last edited by c.a.m; 12-28-2020 at 03:58 PM.

house · 12-28-2020, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by c.a.m

Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world?

I swear I've read this comparison before.

Kunzite · 12-28-2020, 02:35 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by c.a.m

Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world?

Perhaps that was true for the early DA* 16-50 samples

**c.a.m** · 12-28-2020, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Perhaps that was true for the early DA* 16-50 samples

Hehe.

Zygonyx · 12-28-2020, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by c.a.m

Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world?

- Craig

Actually, there is one area where this partnership/comparison fails : build quality...

**sbh** · 12-29-2020, 03:35 AM

I liked what he said. Sounds a bit like he is playing the Infinite Game and the golden circle that Simon Sinek describes.

H. Sapiens · 12-29-2020, 03:40 AM

I think it is wonderful we have to learn about their strategy in a car maker's campaign. And that in a car campaign of a brand I didn't even know existed anymore.

Anyway. There is a site for the joint campaign with some photos (you know, the end product this is supposed to be about):

?Feel the Moment?RICOH GR ? ??????????????????? | Alfa Romeo????? ????

Plenty of things to discuss related to this article. There is no discussion thread in this forum?

house · 12-29-2020, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by Shinobu Takahashi:

Both GR and PENTAX are made by the same people, and development is carried out alternately.

If the translation is correct this is quite interesting and explains the pace of development. If as someone said they are now working on a GR we can expect a long wait for the next Pentax. I personally can't see the hurry for a new body after the K-3 III.

**Tony Belding** · 12-29-2020, 06:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by angerdan

Ricoh CEO: “Some say Pentax should be mirrorless. I cannot do it.”
Google Translate

One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP.

Phone cameras today seem to be going in a similar direction. My iPhone 11 Pro produces flat, cartoony, over-processed images that repulse me. It didn't have to be that way. Apple programmed it to do that, because they decided that's what the masses want.

I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too.

**ThorSanchez** · 12-29-2020, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by Tony Belding

One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP.

When I read or hear someone talk about how LPs sound better than digital music I assume it's not done on the basis of facts but instead emotion and different contexts. People who buy LPs like the feeling of putting the needle on the record, and hearing the pops and crackles, and listening to things on a high-end stereo system. While most digital music is listened to everywhere from while they're running to in cars to on smart speakers in their office. They conflate the two experiences and begin to believe that the LP actually sounds better.

Ricoh/Pentax probably likes the comparison because they want people to have that kind of nostalgic feeling about their cameras to remove themselves from the technological one-upmanships of the mirrorless cameras.

Quote:

I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too.

About 85% of recorded music revenues are digital/online/streaming. Physical media is 7%. Vinyl is less than 50% of that. So maybe 2-3%. I think Ricoh-Pentax would not approach that level with film cameras. With vinyl once you have the turntable and stereo you just pick up the record and play it. With film it's that whole process of waiting days or weeks for the photos to come back and half of them are probably discards. Few are going to pay $hundreds or $thousands for a new SLR camera. Especially when you can Google K1000 and find pages and pages of them for sale for a little over $100.

house · 12-29-2020, 06:26 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Tony Belding

One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP.

Phone cameras today seem to be going in a similar direction. My iPhone 11 Pro produces flat, cartoony, over-processed images that repulse me. It didn't have to be that way. Apple programmed it to do that, because they decided that's what the masses want.

I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too.

They specifically say that vinyl is not a retro thing but a different, for many valuable, experience. I assume they regard SLR in the same way.

They also state that convenience is not to be prioritised. Mirrorless is a convenience thing. Few would argue its more enjoyable except from the viewpoint of potentially more keepers per unit effort.

They even took the two examples of a zoom GR and a mirrorless Pentax as similarly bad ideas. Absolutely correct!

I cannot understand how anyone can think a zoom GR would be a good idea. Equally a mirrorless Pentax or a body fattening floppy screen on a 12fps body.

Yet these things are asked for again and again. I wonder if its the same people? The convenience brigade that would sacrifice "sharpness" for convenience.

Pentax is really doing exactly what I wanted them to do. I dont want them to become over priced and start Leica style over fetishishing though.

**Pål Jensen** · 12-29-2020, 06:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

When I read or hear someone talk about how LPs sound better than digital music I assume it's not done on the basis of facts but instead emotion and different contexts. People who buy LPs like the feeling of putting the needle on the record, and hearing the pops and crackles, and listening to things on a high-end stereo system. While most digital music is listened to everywhere from while they're running to in cars to on smart speakers in their office. They conflate the two experiences and begin to believe that the LP actually sounds better.

Vinyl does sound better on a high-end rig. It is mainly because, as Tony stated, digital is often mastered to death with virtually no dynamic range. It is the aural counterpart to the clumsily done HDR image where everything is medium toned.
Buying CD's these days is detective work involving web pages and forums to find versions that are not compressed to death. Usually ending up with second hand copies made before the mid 90's. Even high-res SACD's, particularly those from Japan, are also often compressed, which not only sounds bad, but it is totally pointless as it throw away the extra resolution....

BTW I don't think optical finders will ever go out of fashion. Maybe the day we replace all windows with LCD screens.....

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12-28-2020, 02:01 PM - 1 Like	#32
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Zygonyx A brand listening to its userbase, what else ? The translation is as always a bit rough but I actually came away with pretty much the opposite understanding. That you can't listen to users and provide everything the ask for. Quite strange though that the CEO is repeating basically verbatim the arguments made by myself and others about the importance of product focus and experience. Even the examples vinyl records, anti zoom GR for instance have been put forward in several forums. Perhaps we are being monitored more than we thought This interview gives more insight into the Ricoh imaging thinking than any previous info they've released. I ran in through deepl.com which usually does better translations than google. See here https://pastebin.com/raw/UvVn40EM use reader view for better experience. Originally posted by Shinobu Takahashi: I think that hobby products should not be too much in line with customers who demand convenience. That's the murder of mushroom shooters demanding flippy screens and other fans of do it all right there this kind of stuff gives me confidence in Pentax. Last edited by house; 12-28-2020 at 02:16 PM.

12-29-2020, 06:26 AM - 2 Likes	#44
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Tony Belding One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP. Phone cameras today seem to be going in a similar direction. My iPhone 11 Pro produces flat, cartoony, over-processed images that repulse me. It didn't have to be that way. Apple programmed it to do that, because they decided that's what the masses want. I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too. They specifically say that vinyl is not a retro thing but a different, for many valuable, experience. I assume they regard SLR in the same way. They also state that convenience is not to be prioritised. Mirrorless is a convenience thing. Few would argue its more enjoyable except from the viewpoint of potentially more keepers per unit effort. They even took the two examples of a zoom GR and a mirrorless Pentax as similarly bad ideas. Absolutely correct! I cannot understand how anyone can think a zoom GR would be a good idea. Equally a mirrorless Pentax or a body fattening floppy screen on a 12fps body. Yet these things are asked for again and again. I wonder if its the same people? The convenience brigade that would sacrifice "sharpness" for convenience. Pentax is really doing exactly what I wanted them to do. I dont want them to become over priced and start Leica style over fetishishing though. Last edited by house; 12-29-2020 at 06:32 AM.

12-29-2020, 06:52 AM - 1 Like	#45
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by ThorSanchez When I read or hear someone talk about how LPs sound better than digital music I assume it's not done on the basis of facts but instead emotion and different contexts. People who buy LPs like the feeling of putting the needle on the record, and hearing the pops and crackles, and listening to things on a high-end stereo system. While most digital music is listened to everywhere from while they're running to in cars to on smart speakers in their office. They conflate the two experiences and begin to believe that the LP actually sounds better. Vinyl does sound better on a high-end rig. It is mainly because, as Tony stated, digital is often mastered to death with virtually no dynamic range. It is the aural counterpart to the clumsily done HDR image where everything is medium toned. Buying CD's these days is detective work involving web pages and forums to find versions that are not compressed to death. Usually ending up with second hand copies made before the mid 90's. Even high-res SACD's, particularly those from Japan, are also often compressed, which not only sounds bad, but it is totally pointless as it throw away the extra resolution.... BTW I don't think optical finders will ever go out of fashion. Maybe the day we replace all windows with LCD screens..... Last edited by Pål Jensen; 12-29-2020 at 06:58 AM.

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12-28-2020, 01:41 PM	#31
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Pentax may have a choice - invest in “FF” or invest in Medium Format. Most of the uses that Medium Format was dominant in when I was a child are now “FF” property, so I know what decision I would make.

12-28-2020, 02:11 PM	#33
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by house The translation is as always a bit rough but I actually came away with pretty much the opposite understanding. That you can't listen to users and provide everything the ask for. Quite strange though that the CEO is repeating basically verbatim the arguments made by myself and others about the importance of product focus and experience. Even the examples vinyl records, anti zoom GR for instance have been put forward in several forums. Perhaps we are being monitored more than we thought This interview gives more insight into the Ricoh imaging thinking than any previous info they've released. Well, i personally had the experience (privilege ?) to be asked by a pretty high ranked RI representative, to forward my argumented opinion on SLR versus ML advantages 2,5 years ago. I might be wrong, but i do suspect this wasn't wasted time.

12-28-2020, 02:25 PM	#34
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by angerdan Ricoh CEO: “Some say Pentax should be mirrorless. I cannot do it.” I appreciated the interview, despite the typical challenges of automated translation. We get a glimpse into the collaboration between the 'Pentax' and 'Ricoh' sides of the house, and the outlook and vision expressed by Takahashi-san, and his comments on "brand value." I like this guy. Other sites have picked up on this interview. PetaPixel appears to have mis-interpreted a part of the translation: "In the interview, Takahashi seems to lean heavily into the idea that Ricoh Imaging, which includes Pentax, will continue to develop products that aim for a certain experience while the only end result the company cares about is tack-sharp images." I think the translation "sharp" means keeping the product focused on key goals and objectives. MIRRORLESS RUMORS says "So really not a lot of info but it’s clear they don’t give a damn about making mirrorless system cameras." They didn't seem to pick up on any of the nuances of the interview. Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world? - Craig Last edited by c.a.m; 12-28-2020 at 03:58 PM.

12-28-2020, 02:31 PM	#35
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by c.a.m Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world? I swear I've read this comparison before.

12-28-2020, 02:35 PM - 2 Likes	#36
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by c.a.m Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world? Perhaps that was true for the early DA* 16-50 samples

12-28-2020, 03:50 PM	#37
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by Kunzite Perhaps that was true for the early DA* 16-50 samples Hehe.

12-28-2020, 08:37 PM	#38
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by c.a.m Ricoh Imaging -- the Alfa Romeo of the camera world? - Craig Actually, there is one area where this partnership/comparison fails : build quality...

12-29-2020, 03:35 AM	#39
sbh Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Black Forest, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 849	I liked what he said. Sounds a bit like he is playing the Infinite Game and the golden circle that Simon Sinek describes.

12-29-2020, 03:40 AM	#40
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 328	I think it is wonderful we have to learn about their strategy in a car maker's campaign. And that in a car campaign of a brand I didn't even know existed anymore. Anyway. There is a site for the joint campaign with some photos (you know, the end product this is supposed to be about): ?Feel the Moment?RICOH GR ? ??????????????????? \| Alfa Romeo????? ???? Plenty of things to discuss related to this article. There is no discussion thread in this forum?

12-29-2020, 03:58 AM	#41
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Shinobu Takahashi: Both GR and PENTAX are made by the same people, and development is carried out alternately. If the translation is correct this is quite interesting and explains the pace of development. If as someone said they are now working on a GR we can expect a long wait for the next Pentax. I personally can't see the hurry for a new body after the K-3 III.

12-29-2020, 06:04 AM - 1 Like	#42
Tony Belding Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton, Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 781	Originally posted by angerdan Ricoh CEO: “Some say Pentax should be mirrorless. I cannot do it.” Google Translate One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP. Phone cameras today seem to be going in a similar direction. My iPhone 11 Pro produces flat, cartoony, over-processed images that repulse me. It didn't have to be that way. Apple programmed it to do that, because they decided that's what the masses want. I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too.

12-29-2020, 06:25 AM	#43
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,806	Originally posted by Tony Belding One thing that irked me was his comparison with CD and LP. CDs are certainly capable of sounding much better than LP records. It's what they were invented for, and the engineers at Phillips really knew what they were doing. The problem with CDs is that since about the late 1990s most of them (outside of maybe jazz and classical) have been horribly mastered. The levels are cranked up, compressed and clipped to make them sound like garbage. Why? Well, that's the fashion. That's what the music industry collectively decided to do, decided would sell. If I want a good recording of new music, now I generally have to buy it on LP. When I read or hear someone talk about how LPs sound better than digital music I assume it's not done on the basis of facts but instead emotion and different contexts. People who buy LPs like the feeling of putting the needle on the record, and hearing the pops and crackles, and listening to things on a high-end stereo system. While most digital music is listened to everywhere from while they're running to in cars to on smart speakers in their office. They conflate the two experiences and begin to believe that the LP actually sounds better. Ricoh/Pentax probably likes the comparison because they want people to have that kind of nostalgic feeling about their cameras to remove themselves from the technological one-upmanships of the mirrorless cameras. Quote: I don't see any problem like that with mirrorless system cameras today. They are fantastic, and I don't know how DSLRs hold out against them. If Ricoh-Pentax really want to go retro, I would nudge them towards producing a new 35mm film SLR. That would make a splash and provide something we can't get elsewhere anymore. I'd love something like a ZX-5n with improved build and updated electronics. They could sell a lot of FA Limiteds with it too. About 85% of recorded music revenues are digital/online/streaming. Physical media is 7%. Vinyl is less than 50% of that. So maybe 2-3%. I think Ricoh-Pentax would not approach that level with film cameras. With vinyl once you have the turntable and stereo you just pick up the record and play it. With film it's that whole process of waiting days or weeks for the photos to come back and half of them are probably discards. Few are going to pay $hundreds or $thousands for a new SLR camera. Especially when you can Google K1000 and find pages and pages of them for sale for a little over $100.