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08-29-2010, 08:50 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by lurchlarson Quote
Sometimes you can pick up the quantaray 70-300mm 1:2 macro for under $100. Its the same a rebadged tamron. In fact in the EXIF it will say Tamron not Quantaray. The Tamron can be had for ~$150 sometimes a little more but usually less.

Here is a video review of itREVIEW

If you are willing to step up to a high quality REPLACEMENT for the 18-55 look for the tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 or the Pentax 16-50mm f/2.8. The tamron is cheaper but the Pentax is quieter and has weathersealing if you ever step up to a weather sealed body. They are more than your budget though.

When it comes to Lenses you get what you pay for.
whats you experience with the sharpness of this lens 70-300mm

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If you get the version of the Quantaray that is made by Tamron, then it will be as sharp as the Tamron version - and see than many, many existing threads on that lens, as well as the reviews in the lens database on this site - for testimonials as to its sharpness. But some of the Quantaray zooms are made by Sigma. These are slightly less sharp, but better in other ways (again, see the many existing threads comparing these lenses, as well as the reviews in that section of this site).

Still, I'd take the DA50-200 in a heartbeat over either of those for the smaller size and quick shift focusing.
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If you get the version of the Quantaray that is made by Tamron, then it will be as sharp as the Tamron version - and see than many, many existing threads on that lens, as well as the reviews in the lens database on this site - for testimonials as to its sharpness. But some of the Quantaray zooms are made by Sigma. These are slightly less sharp, but better in other ways (again, see the many existing threads comparing these lenses, as well as the reviews in that section of this site).

Still, I'd take the DA50-200 in a heartbeat over either of those for the smaller size and quick shift focusing.
ive been reading reviews on the DA50-200. seems like a good lens except not being that sharp with wide aperture.

does it matter since I am using photoshop to sharpen anyway? i do a lot of manipulations to colors and such so who cares if its not perfectly sharp out the camera?
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QuoteOriginally posted by hockmasm Quote
ive been reading reviews on the DA50-200. seems like a good lens except not being that sharp with wide aperture.

does it matter since I am using photoshop to sharpen anyway? i do a lot of manipulations to colors and such so who cares if its not perfectly sharp out the camera?
Yes it matters. A Lot. Nothing sharpens up better than an already sharp image. You can not make a sharp image from a blurry one, the data for the detail simply isn't there as it wasn't captured.

There's a reason people spend $500or even $1,500 on a lens. As was said before, with lenses as with most other things, you get what you pay for.

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Based on my own experience, I would say that the 50-200 is plenty sharp for my purposes. I actually find it just as sharp if not sharper than the 70-300, even shooting wide open. Some reviewers may have been working with an unusually bad copy of the 50-200 - mine is very clearly much better than the one Photozone tested, based on the posted sample images.
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what about a 50/55-300mm lens? is there a good one for under 400?
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QuoteOriginally posted by hockmasm Quote
what about a 50/55-300mm lens? is there a good one for under 400?
yes, the DA 55-300 is the undisputed best in that zoom range for the price, there's at least 50 threads on here confirming that time after time
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how big of a differnece is the 100mm between the 50-200mm and 55-300? is 100mm that big of zoom in?

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how big of a differnece is the 100mm between the 50-200mm and 55-300? is 100mm that big of zoom in?
The difference is significant. I took photos Saturday at my sons soccer game. Had to set up about 10m from one goal. So when the action was at the other end of the field the 200 just did not get me close enough to isolate 1-2 people but at 300 mm I could.
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Test 70-300mm Sigma


I happened to be in the same 'spot' a couple of weeks ago! Saw advertised in A Store in town, a Sigma lens 70 - 300mm DG Zoom/Macro for under $200.00. Too cheap you might say? well turns out it was not such a bad deal after all. Sure it's not a lens that a pro or semi-pro would use but I like it a lot. For outdoors it's great, indoors you have to play around with the light for marco shots but ordinary flash are okay. Couple of pics of a Library here just to give you an example.
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Sigma Lens

Two more test shots taken through a two pane Window.
Plus the actual Sigma lens.
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Excuse me for coming in on your thread hockmasm, but I wanted to ask something along the same lines as your question. I didn't want to make up a new thread to ask though, hope you don't mind me coming in?

I just wanted to ask people whether they would buy the 50-200 or would they wait a few months and buy the 18-250 instead? At the moment I only have the 18-55 kit lens and I would like more zoom, especially for street photography and candid shots. I'm just not sure if I have the patience to save so long, but if the IQ for the tamron 18-250 is better than the 50-200 I suppose I could bide my time. What do others think?
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I personally shoot with the Sigma 18-200. The reason I bought was flexibility and I would definitely recommend a super zoom lens especially if you are not into changing lenses. I heard good reviews about the Tamron, It's supposed to be very close or maybe identical to the Pentax version.
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Get a cheap 70-210mm

Here is different tack. Buy a DA 55-300mm later when you have more money. Buy a cheap 70-210 AF lens (or something in that range) on ebay, for now. They were made by Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc., and cost very little, selling for about $50 or so. I know most members here put these down for poor IQ, but you can learn how to expose and compose a telephoto shot with these lenses while you save up for a DA 55-300mm. You can sell the 70-210mm after you get the 55-300mm and get most if not all of your money back. Some are really not bad. I had a Tokina, that I got as a kit with other items. I figure that this lens cost me $45 by subtracting the price of the other items from the total. My daughter has it now. Here is a link to show the Image Quality that this lens can produce.
Tokina 70-210mm test: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
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those shots look pretty clear! why would i buy the $200 Pentax 50-200m when i can get the Tokina for $50?
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