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09-04-2010, 01:44 AM   #1
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Best prime lens for beginner? (28/50mm)

Hey guys! There are so many choices on ebay I only have the kit lens right now, and would like a prime lens. What are some suggestions, and hopefully links, to lenses that'd be great? Thanks in advance!

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DA 40 Limited...

Hands down... slam dumk... no question... Get it!
09-04-2010, 03:20 AM   #3
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DA40. Get one.
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you have the kit, 18-55.
then get a focal length outside that.
get a DA70. not so expensive, but a great lens

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Pick a DA limited based on a focal length that you like to shoot or something that you would like to shoot but can't. I would suggest the DA 35 as it gives the macro option(https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/32664-theory-d...tml#post297055), the DA 15 is wider than what you have and if you like to shoot landscapes can be amazing(https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/86234-15mm-lim...s-my-mind.html). Photos from the other DA limiteds are shown here (https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/74194-da-limited-club.html). I think any one of these lenses offers a lot. My personal favorites are the DA 35 and DA 70.
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Wait for the photokina. New primes will be announced.
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Ah I should hve been more specific. I was hoping for an older, and cheaper, manual prime
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Why not both? You should be able to get a Pentax-M 28 3.5 and a Pentax M 50 1.7 for about $100. Look for a third party lens. Vivitar 28s are plentiful and cheap. I got an Auto Sears MC 50 1.7 for $10. I think it's as good as the M 50 1.7.

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The question is impossible to answer until *you* figure out what kind of focal length you feel would be most useful to *you*. For me personally, the focal lengths where I feel I get the most benefit from having a prime rather than the kit lenses are in the normal (say, 28-40) and medium telephoto (say, 100-135) ranges. In both cases, the primary advantage for me being the larger aperture, allowing faster shutter speed. The "normal" lens for basic candids and other snapshots, the telephoto for my concert photography. Others, though, are more interested in portraits, and for them something in the 50-100mm range might make more sense.

If all you have is the 18-55, I'm inclined to suggest a 135mm just so you've have *something* telephoto. Although it's rather likely you'll eventually decide to get a telephoto zoom like a 50-200, 55-300, 70-300, etc - but still, I personally would never want to be without a faster telephoto.

The other lens I'd think about would be something like the M35/2 - not a commonly discussed lens, but one that seems like a very natural choice to me, as it's a pretty good compromise between cheap and fast. I'd also suggest really looking at your use of your kit lens to see if you think you'd be better served with something a little wider (most of my landscapes are closer to 28) or a little longer (most of my candids are closer to 40). A 28/2.8 and/or the M40/2.8 could also be good choices.
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I would recommend that you go through all your shots with the kit lens. What zoom setting are you using the most? Pick something in that size range or within a few mm of that size. Every lens mentioned is a very fine lens but you won't be happy with your purchase if it is a size you won't use much. If you find the 18mm of the kit lens not wide enough or if you are cropping all your shots taken at 55mm, then the shorter or longer primes might be in order. There are hundreds of examples of what these various different primes can do all over the forum.
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Super or Super Multi Coated 50 1.4 M42 Takumar with M42 adapter.

Lens, 75 to 100 bucks.

No question.
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I have to echo Marc's reasoning here. With using the kit, you should be starting to have some inkling about what you most enjoy about photography. Landscapes, portraits, kids - grandchildren, architecture, sports, travel, and/or ?????? Looking through your past images will certainly help. So, based on what and how you use the camera, that will point you to the general area that a prime may be of most use to you.

You do not have a general use yet, and just want a prime? Then, you are following the whims of everyone else. Then, find something very inexpensive, to scratch the itch, an older M 50mm f2 for under $30 or a Tokina 28mm f2.8 for around $20 or under (either of which might just come with a older film body attached).

Even with a good idea of the focal length area that appeals to you most, then there is manual, automatic, autofocus, new glass, old glass. Regular lens or specialty (fish eye)? Pentax, or third party - Sigma, Tamron or some super premium like Zeiss...


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I'll back boriscleto. Sears or Focal (K-Mart) or Ricoh primes are cheap and good and are mostly in K-mount so no adapters are needed. An autofocus zoom makes it easy to take pictures. A manual prime teaches you to see. Popular cheap focal lengths include:

* 28/2.8: great for sea- and land-scapes
* 35/2.8: equivalent to 'normal' film lenses
* 50-55mm, f/1.7-f/2: a good Fast Fifty ***
* 135/2.8: a good usable short telephoto

These can often be found for ~US$20 each. Some may say KR on the side, and may thus have the infamous Ricoh Pin that is easily removed. Some newer nameless K-mount primes are by Cosina and are rather good and cheap.

As Marc said, see which focal lengths you use your 18-55 at. But using fixed primes in that range just ain't the same experience, especially a Fast Fifty. I really recommend a cheap 135mm too, so you can see what a bit more reach can do. Have fun!
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I will quite arbitrarily suggest the Pentax A 28/2.8 and the Cosina (variously branded Pentax, Phoenix or Vivitar) 100/3.5 Macro (1:2, 1:1 with included adapter) -- the latter is available with or without the A aperture setting.

These two lenses are both reasonably priced, widely available, and provide a normal and a telephoto in very traditional FOV and with high IQ. QED.

Of course, your goals may differ.
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