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09-17-2010, 06:14 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by snostorm Quote
Hi uchinakuri,

I think that for up to some pretty advanced flash use, the Pentax flash system works pretty well. The point that the other mfgs pull away in sophistication is pretty far beyond how the great majority of people who might want to use flash will use them.

If you imagine yourself as someone who just wants to use a flash occasionally, then P-TTL is pretty brainless.

Up to and including the use of a single wireless off-camera flash, using the camera to meter the shot, it's still not too difficult, but there is something of a learning curve, and it's not well documented, but relatively easily doable, maybe with a little specific help from a forum like this.

If you see yourself really getting into it to the point that you're using multiple flashes off camera, to get the lighting 100% right, then it'll become more frustrating, and another system might be more appropriate if you want ultimate ease of setup and use. There are still a lot of photographers that use Pentax camera in this environment, but it's definitely more difficult, and a comprehensive knowledge of lighting techniques and gear is going to be necessary.

I'm pretty much an advanced beginner in flash photography. I use most of the included features in the AF360 and AF 540, plus a couple of other P-TTL flashes, and the system works for me very predictably, if not 100% perfectly, but apparently a lot people don't seem to be able to get how it works. My feeling is that those who don't like P-TTL are either wanting sophistication beyond the system's significant capability, or they don't really understand how it works on a very basic level. I may not know all the nuts and bolts, and am certainly not a really high end flash user, but P-TTL works well enough for me.

The most likely case.

09-17-2010, 07:00 PM   #17

QuoteOriginally posted by wlachan Quote
My own opinion is that the current Pentax flashes (360/540FGZ) simply suck, from P-TTL reliability to built quality. Nikon leads the game, Canon quite behind but still much better than Pentax. It was said a new Pentax flash would be released next year. Until then.
Oh, the WR flashes. Nice.
09-18-2010, 05:15 AM   #18
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Nikon basically has the ability to control multiple flashes with an on camera control unit. Pentax's ability is much more basic. At the same time, if you want to use multiple strobes, it is better at the minimum to get some radio triggers and learn to use them. This will meet most photographer's needs without much difficulty at all.

I have a Metz 58 and the Pentax AF 360. The Metz is definitely nicer both as far as build quality and power/swiveling ability, but both produce nice effects on camera.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
Nikon basically has the ability to control multiple flashes with an on camera control unit. Pentax's ability is much more basic.
Well, the built-in flash is sufficient, you don't need a control unit (except for those fancy top-of-the-line FF cameras that don't have built-in flashes).

Pentax could easily do the same (they already know how to handle 4 channels!), but they obviously consider this point to be not important enough... Actually, you can control several flashes in wireless, but they will all fire at the same power...

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I'm a big fan of the Metz 48. Works great with my K200d.

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