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10-24-2010, 07:12 PM   #1
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What first lens?

Hi all,
I recently got a K100D body. I am currently using it with my old K1000 lens 50mm. What is a good all around first lens to buy?

10-24-2010, 07:24 PM   #2
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If you'll be shooting film, I strongly recommend this lens, as it's a great all-around performer, and even features a macro setting: SMC Pentax-A 35-105mm F3.5 Lens Reviews - Pentax Lens Review Database

Edit: oops- I misread your post! Why not give the 18-55mm kit lens a spin?

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It depends on what type of shooting you intend to do.
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I came to Pentax because of the lenses -- specifically, I wanted an affordable fisheye zoom, and at the time (2.5 years ago), the DA10-17 was the only option. My first lens kit for my 'new' Ky20D was the DA10-17 fisheye, DA18-250 superzoom, and FA50/1.4 for low light. As foto_guy says, what lens(es) you want depends on what and how you want to shoot.

Many here will recommend an 18-250 for the greatest flexibility; or the kit DA18-55 (now available CHEAP on eBay) as a starter lens; or the DA16-45 for better IQ (image quality); or a batch of pretty cheap used manual primes for bargain performance. Shooting wildlife? Maybe spend a bundle on a Bigma (Sigma 50-500mm). Shooting macros outdoors? Get a 100mm macro lens. Shooting building interiors and exteriors? The DA12-24 is for you. It all depends...

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i would go with primes, new and cheap and great da 35/2.4 L and later also 50/1.4 and maybe some da or fa ltds.
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Tell us a dollar amount you want to spend and we'll make sure you spend every penny. You probably don't have a preference yet of what types of photos to take so at this point, take your pick and see if it suits you.



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You already received some good advice.

I second both Adam and RioRico:
- the DA18-55mm (the kit lens) is a good start, and
- the DA18-250mm (or Tamron 18-250mm) is the most versatile lens.

I would recommend the DA18-250mm as the best all-rounder. It is a highly regarded lens by all photographers beyond Pentaxians within its huge range (18-250mm).

Hope that the coment will assist...
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Thanks everyone. I am just a casual dslr newb, used to have a k1000 a long time ago but never really learnt the basic stuff other than what shutter speed, aperture and iso is supposed to do.

Really have no idea what photos I want to take. Right now I am just taking casual pics whereever I happen to go; ie wife, hikes, daytrips etc. I really dont want to have to carry a big bag full of stuff like pros do. With my old 50 pentax lens on the k100d...i have to adjust everything (which is kinda fun actually).....resulting in some good clear pics....most unclear, overexposed underexposed. I take it one of the newer auto lens would help alleviate these problems? And could I do all this in a lens for under $100?

Maybe I should just try the 18-55? How would this differ from the 35-70?

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QuoteOriginally posted by nkman Quote
Thanks everyone. I am just a casual dslr newb, used to have a k1000 a long time ago but never really learnt the basic stuff other than what shutter speed, aperture and iso is supposed to do.

Really have no idea what photos I want to take. Right now I am just taking casual pics whereever I happen to go; ie wife, hikes, daytrips etc. I really dont want to have to carry a big bag full of stuff like pros do. With my old 50 pentax lens on the k100d...i have to adjust everything (which is kinda fun actually).....resulting in some good clear pics....most unclear, overexposed underexposed. I take it one of the newer auto lens would help alleviate these problems? And could I do all this in a lens for under $100?

Maybe I should just try the 18-55? How would this differ from the 35-70?

For under $100 I do suggest the 18-55. It can be used in Auto mode on your K100D and it will give you the basics. Naturally, as you'll see here, everyone will suggest using a prime such as your 50mm if you wish top quality images.
But with the 18-55mm lens you can play with the basics, changing only one parameter at a time, until you learn what your needs are, and what your style is.
I have a bunch of primes and my 18-55mm is still my walk-around lens. I wish I could have a faster equivalent focal length zoom lens with better optics but that goes over my present budget.
But it's also a lower priority on my next lens purchase.

So use the 18-55mm, which will comfortably fit under your 100$ budget, and then make a decision if you want any combination of faster, longer, wider, or macro prime or zoom lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nkman Quote
the basic stuff other than what shutter speed, aperture and iso is supposed to do.
That's 99% of it right there.

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Maybe I should just try the 18-55? How would this differ from the 35-70?
You will have no wide angle with the 35-70, and less telephoto with the 18-55.
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QuoteOriginally posted by SpecialK Quote
That's 99% of it right there.



You will have no wide angle with the 35-70, and less telephoto with the 18-55.
This is because the DSLR has a different image area than the K1000, so a 50mm lens on the K100D acts like a 75mm would on your K1000. The 18-55 kit lens is the approximate equivalent of a 27-82mm lens on a film camera like your K1000. The 35-70mm lens would behave, on a digital, like a 52-105mm lens would on film. On Digital, 35 is the same perspective you get with a 50mm lens on film.

Also, if you stick the 18-55 on a film camera, the corners will be cut off at and near 18mm, and you would need a camera that can fiddle with the aperture without the use of an aperture ring.
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For the type of shooting you want to do (and your budget) the kit lens will suffice. The great thing is that the kit lens is weakest (in my opinion) at 55mm... it's just very soft. So you have the prime lens to fill that hole.

You will likely find a focal length that you like after shooting with the kit for a year and then you can buy a better lens for that purpose.
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Thanks for all the replies. Just bought a DA 18-55 II off the marketplace!
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You should find the 18-55 a very useful lens, the next logical step is the DA55-300 for more reach for not much money. Have fun.
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If economy and size is a concern, the 50-200 would also be a good, inexpensive complement to the 18-55. Together they would be appropriate for a high percentage of pictures most people want to take.

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