Originally posted by Ehlacore You cant have dual citizenship in Japan and if you were born here to a foreigner parent you have until I believe 21 before choosing which country you belong to
Twenty, which is the age of majority. And it is possible to maintain dual citizenship since some other countries hold that a choice of citizenship expressed to another country does not equal a renouncement of citizenship in their own country. You just have to juggle passports when you travel.
Quote: I know thats an extreme example, but I always ask "Syashingu Daigobudeska" or "Syashingu onegaishimas"
Shashingu means "photographic gear" and is a seldom-used term. I presume you meant "daijobu" and not "daigobu". The second sentence would mean, "Please give me some photographic gear." and is probably not what you were going for. If you're wanting to ask for permission to take a photo, here are some things you can use:
Shashin o torasete itadakemasu ka?
Shashin o totte mo ii desu ka?
If you want to ask if it is alright to take your gear in somewhere and take pictures:
Satsuei shite mo ii desu ka?
Kamera no mochikomi mo ii desu ka?
And the bit you referenced about not being able to use pictures of kids without permission is correct as far as it goes, but in actual fact Japanese law gives everybody an absolute right to their image and technically/legally speaking you may not post/publish anyone's photo without permission.
Quote: Getting anything of substance here is almost impossible without marrying a Japanese person and having them do everything for you.
That is not true. It is merely the easy way out taken by people who don't make sufficient effort to assimilate and learn to look after themselves. I never liked the idea of not being a fully functional adult and having to rely on my wife do everything for me, so I learned to do for myself. You know what? It is perfectly doable.
Quote: Also you still get stares or comments from people who dont like foreigners.
And you get fawning admiration from people who are unfathomably fascinated with foreigners.
Quote: I'm not saying its all bad! There is just as many benifits as there are downsides. Most Japanese people think foreigners are cool, and altough they wouldn:t want their daughter dating one they are excited to have one as a friend or even to say a few English words.
I think the "wouldn't want their daughter dating one" comment is gratuitous, to say the least.
Quote: You seem to be making the assumption I:m just another disgruntled foreigner. I:m not, I:m just not ignorent to the negative things as well. In fact (at least in my area) most people (Japan veteran foreigners of over 10 years and Japanese people a like) are in agreement with many of my social insights and it is of great interest to me which is why I like discussing it.
No, I'm just pointing out that you don't even know what it is you don't know about living here as something other than a foreigner living firmly inside the boundaries of what is expected of him. When you try to live here on the same terms and conditions as the Japanese do you will find that it is an entirely different country than you thought it was when you lived inside the bubble. It's sort of like a goldfish living in a bowl, looking out and seeing all the people in the room, and assuming he has observed all there is to be seen outside the bowl.
Those "veteran foreigners" you mention.....do they still live inside the English-teaching goldfish bowl? Do they take the easy way and have their wives do everything for them?
Just so you know where I'm coming from, I've lived here for 27 years and for the last 20 years have made my living as a truck driver. My days are spent working in a 100% Japanese-only environment where I am expected to be as functional and literate as the next guy, where English ability is incidental and utterly useless. I make my way here "even though" I am a foreigner, as I found no dignity in the thought of being able to make my way here "just because" I was a foreigner.
I don't take my wife along to translate and do things for me when I have matters to tend to. I am a grown man and perfectly capable of tending to things myself. My home is a Japanese household and both my children (16 and 15) are monolingual Japanese speakers. The last time I was outside Japan was 1999.
I hope I haven't appeared antagonistic here, for such was not my intent. I just want to make it clear that the vast majority of limitations foreigners feel are actually self-imposed and that it is entirely possible to break through them. As they are self-imposed the onus is on
us to put forth the effort to remove them. And not to sound too curmudgeonly, but if you think
anything about being a foreigner in Japan in 2010 is tough, irritating, or distasteful, you should have been here "way back when". The difference between people's acceptance of foreigners between twenty years ago and now is like the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning, as Twain would say.
Quote: P.S. I am taking a Japanese Photography Class starting next month (and they dont speak English, so this should be fun)
There you go! That is precisely the sort of thing I was talking about earlier. You will have some reason and common purpose for your interaction
other than your foreign origins. And my bet is that you will come away thinking the most "international-minded" (read: "accepting") people there are the ones who want to interact with you based on photography rather than the ones who are interested in your foreignness.
I may have to wake up as a foreign-born white man every day, but that doesn't mean I have to go through my day with that being the main theme of my existence.....and people who want to make it so are annoying. Another part of why I quit the English-teaching trained-monkey dancing-bear racket a long time ago.
Quote: SORRY FOR GETTING OFF TOPIC
back to the topic
If you get an offer on a photo, how do you decide its value. Who makes an offer, and what are some offers like?
PPS I PMED Mike to take the discussion out of this thread
One of my personality quirks and character flaws is that I have never warmed up to the PM thing and prefer to avoid it where possible.