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12-15-2010, 07:50 AM   #1
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No EV indicator in M mode with manual lens?

Hi,

I am using a 50mm f1.7 manual lens with my K10D. The EV meter does not show in the viewfinder or LCD panel when using this lens. It shows fine with the kit lens. Why is this? Is it a camera fault, or a menu options thing, or just part of using a manual aperture lens?

It is highly inconvenient, as using a manual lens is just when you need this feature.

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Jez

P.S. I know how to green button stop-down meter etc...

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Yeah you have to give the on/off/preview button a pull to see the display.
Green button stop down is far more convenient than keeping that switch in the preview position and making adjustments.

Any coupled lens will however show a constant exposure value bar in manual mode due to their contacts. Contacts that manual lenses simply do not have.
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Thanks. Very useful information. The other drawback to using the green button is that I can't change shutter speed and then re-meter with it, as it will reset to program line. DOF preview is better in this regard also.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jeztastic Quote
Thanks. Very useful information. The other drawback to using the green button is that I can't change shutter speed and then re-meter with it, as it will reset to program line. DOF preview is better in this regard also.
You mean take a stop down reading that suggests a shutter speed of 1/90 and you decrease it to 1/120 and want to meter again to see if that is better and it sets you back to 1/90? Just take the picture already.

I just need to get use to using the rear thumb wheel to set shutter in all modes. I just learned the camera with rear as aperture and front as shutter so I just need to retrain my mind.

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I just need to get used to using the rear thumb wheel to set shutter in all modes. I just learned the camera with rear as aperture and front as shutter so I just need to retrain my mind.
Why are you changing? I'm also using with rear as aperture and front as shutter as well. Seems more intuitive to me...

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You mean take a stop down reading that suggests a shutter speed of 1/90 and you decrease it to 1/120 and want to meter again to see if that is better and it sets you back to 1/90? Just take the picture already.
Well, I am coming from using film where every picture counts. With my K1000 I know exactly where the little needle needs to be in the viewfinder for each setting! I suppose digital is a different way of working.
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Yes I had been using rear thumb wheel as aperture in all modes. This way even in green manual, button,stop down shutter is with front wheel. Using the method of preview switch and exposure value bar (light meter) is not as easy for me to use the right free finger to turn the front wheel to adjust shutter while holding the switch.
If I am going to use the front wheel as shutter in some modes but then use rear wheel as shutter in other modes, I getsk briefly cornfused.
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Are you using the K10D for this? I can't see how you would do this... Looked in the custom menu...
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I'll never understand the concept of using ev in M mode, which is the only mode I shoot in:

For regular, not fast moving stuff, if I THINK I need compensation, I'll set my aperture 2 stops slower than I want...hit the green button (on the K-x, it's the ev button to lock in shutter speed in M mode)...open my aperture 2 stops...and pull the trigger.

Which equals +2 EV.

It's an extra step, but once I get the reading, I can then fire off ten shots in seconds while, if necessary, screwing with the aperture a little bit with--gasp--my actual fingers.

In my world, ev is for Av mode, not manual.

And for metering in M mode with manual lenses, it's real easy to set my meter to spot, lock on the scene that's near 18% grey or the value I want to meter for, hit the button there, reframe, and pull the trigger.

Everyone shoots differently, and for me, this works the best--since I don't have to touch a dial.


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Ira I think you are speaking of exposure value compensation. I believe the poster was talking about the exposure value bar - the digital light meter.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nowhere Matt Quote
Ira I think you are speaking of exposure value compensation. I believe the poster was talking about the exposure value bar - the digital light meter.
Uhhh.....

This holiday season has me stressed out.
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Note in dof preview mode(pull power switch past on) the lens should stop down and the meter activate showing the exposure /- for over / under.

Note on the K10D you cannot set EV compensation in manual mode, the feature is disabled.,


Stop down metering with DOF is preferred over green button if you want to check exposure without changing it.

Green button is useful to set exposure

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ira Quote
Uhhh.....

This holiday season has me stressed out.
2 Solutions:
1) If you're still working, take leave
2) If you're on leave, go back to work

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