waterproof = pictureproof

deraeler · 03-18-2011, 05:43 AM

I bought a waterproof digital pentax 3 years ago. Now it takes pictures full of horizontal bars that are uncorrectable. Pentex refused to replace it or even give me discount toawrd a new camera - it was just out of warranty. I cannot recommend the product (wish I could remember the model number). It never has a problem with water, and water didn't cause the problem. It just stopped working in the middle of our vacation.

I'll never buy another pentax - enjoy your forum!!

bdery · 03-18-2011, 06:09 AM

Even though it's sad that your camera stopped working properly, you seem to assume that it means every Pentax product is poor.

There was a fire on the Canon forum at DP review because the S2 had a "change the batteries" problem. Canon never acknowledged the problem, never fixed it even for cameras under warranty. So it's not like faulty cameras (or faulty anything) is a new story.

Your camera is 3 years old. Even though you say it has never been abused, there is no way for Pentax to be sure of that (even you can't hardly prove it, and how can you be sure it was always used in perfect conditions, with the seals perfectly in place, within the operating temperature limit, etc). They stand by their product for one year, as do every other company. They would be out of business if they offered lifetime, no-questions-asked warranties on everything.

MRRiley · 03-18-2011, 06:11 AM

"Out of warranty" is "out of warranty"

Neither Canon or Nikon or any other manufacturer would have given you a discount on a new camera, much less given you a new camera to replace your broken one. There are multiple factors that can cause a sophisticated electronic device to fail after 3 years.

SpecialK · 03-18-2011, 06:16 AM

The familiar whine sound...I, unfortunately, deal with this daily.

Raylon · 03-18-2011, 06:36 AM - **2 Likes**

I dislike when people come to a forum, and bitch and whine when their camera stops working after 3 years of continuous use, and probably very rough use. You weren't here when the camera was working perfectly for 3 years, so don't come here when the camera finally has a problem.

SPB · 03-18-2011, 07:58 AM

Well put Raylon. I wouldn't change from Pentax. I had one problem with my K10D, which was almost out of guarantee, it simply refused to work one day, went completely dead when I wanted to take a flash picture. Took the battery out waited a minute, nothing dead. Took it to the dealer they checked it, it was sent to Pentax who under guarantee replaced the mother board of the camera for free.

I would say that as we become more dependent on electronics, a proportion of people can't take that when things don't just work. A bit like the baby throwing the water out of a bath when they cannot get everything their way.

Frogfish · 03-18-2011, 08:03 AM

That is pretty pathetic. I'm sorry your camera has a problem but you come on here just to make one whining post and then disappear into the Blue Yonder again ? Why ? Sad, very sad and bitter ... and pointless. Toys out of the pram big time.

eddie1960 · 03-18-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Frogfish

That is pretty pathetic. I'm sorry your camera has a problem but you come on here just to make one whining post and then disappear into the Blue Yonder again ? Why ? Sad, very sad and bitter ... and pointless. Toys out of the pram big time.

+1

I spent over 25 years in CES retail and the number of times i heard this whine was insane. Every brand i dealt with had product break (and I dealt with every large manufacturer and a large number of small very high end very high quality ones at points as well
Product breaks down it happens. no manufacturer offers discounts or replacement/repair on out of warranty product. the only time i've ever seen it happen is when an individual product has a long history of warranty issues and then breaks again shortly after the warranty. so if your camera had been problematic throughout the warranty period and experienced the same issues again just post warranty i could see them doing something. but not in this case.
good luck with whatever you choose next but don't expect a different result if the same thing happens in 3 years no matter what you buy

fccwpe · 03-18-2011, 12:37 PM

I bought a Ford 4 years ago then it broke down and Ford wouldn't give me my money back. I'll never buy a Ford again!

GET REAL!!!!

SOldBear · 03-18-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by deraeler

I'll never buy another pentax - enjoy your forum!!

Thanks. I always enjoy this forum. I enjoy your absence too.

RXrenesis8 · 03-18-2011, 12:51 PM

Obvious troll is obvious.

eddie1960 · 03-18-2011, 12:59 PM

how in gods name did this troll get 10 rep points? with 1 post and no likes?

Wheatfield · 03-18-2011, 04:24 PM

Bye, it's been a slice.

Edit: I had an Olympus go south on me, and also a couple of Nikons that had problems, so best avoid those brands.

wasser · 03-18-2011, 05:15 PM

Just an FYI to the OP, my first digital camera was a Canon. It, quite ironically, stopped working after 3 years. Now, I didn't attempt to get Canon to pay for it, but I thought the OP might benefit from this info and also avoid all Canon products.

Jodokast96 · 03-18-2011, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by RXrenesis8

Obvious troll is obvious.

Ya think? With a name like Deraeler (derailer)?

03-18-2011, 05:43 AM	#1
deraeler New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bufffalo Posts: 1	waterproof = pictureproof I bought a waterproof digital pentax 3 years ago. Now it takes pictures full of horizontal bars that are uncorrectable. Pentex refused to replace it or even give me discount toawrd a new camera - it was just out of warranty. I cannot recommend the product (wish I could remember the model number). It never has a problem with water, and water didn't cause the problem. It just stopped working in the middle of our vacation. I'll never buy another pentax - enjoy your forum!!

03-18-2011, 12:37 PM	#9
fccwpe Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perris, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 380	I bought a Ford 4 years ago then it broke down and Ford wouldn't give me my money back. I'll never buy a Ford again! GET REAL!!!! Last edited by fccwpe; 03-18-2011 at 12:38 PM. Reason: added text

03-18-2011, 04:24 PM	#13
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Bye, it's been a slice. Edit: I had an Olympus go south on me, and also a couple of Nikons that had problems, so best avoid those brands. Last edited by Wheatfield; 03-18-2011 at 05:56 PM. Reason: follow up to wasser's post

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03-18-2011, 06:09 AM	#2
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Even though it's sad that your camera stopped working properly, you seem to assume that it means every Pentax product is poor. There was a fire on the Canon forum at DP review because the S2 had a "change the batteries" problem. Canon never acknowledged the problem, never fixed it even for cameras under warranty. So it's not like faulty cameras (or faulty anything) is a new story. Your camera is 3 years old. Even though you say it has never been abused, there is no way for Pentax to be sure of that (even you can't hardly prove it, and how can you be sure it was always used in perfect conditions, with the seals perfectly in place, within the operating temperature limit, etc). They stand by their product for one year, as do every other company. They would be out of business if they offered lifetime, no-questions-asked warranties on everything.

03-18-2011, 06:11 AM	#3
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	"Out of warranty" is "out of warranty" Neither Canon or Nikon or any other manufacturer would have given you a discount on a new camera, much less given you a new camera to replace your broken one. There are multiple factors that can cause a sophisticated electronic device to fail after 3 years.

03-18-2011, 06:16 AM	#4
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	The familiar whine sound...I, unfortunately, deal with this daily.

03-18-2011, 06:36 AM - 2 Likes	#5
Raylon Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 70	I dislike when people come to a forum, and bitch and whine when their camera stops working after 3 years of continuous use, and probably very rough use. You weren't here when the camera was working perfectly for 3 years, so don't come here when the camera finally has a problem.

03-18-2011, 07:58 AM	#6
SPB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Zug Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 132	Well put Raylon. I wouldn't change from Pentax. I had one problem with my K10D, which was almost out of guarantee, it simply refused to work one day, went completely dead when I wanted to take a flash picture. Took the battery out waited a minute, nothing dead. Took it to the dealer they checked it, it was sent to Pentax who under guarantee replaced the mother board of the camera for free. I would say that as we become more dependent on electronics, a proportion of people can't take that when things don't just work. A bit like the baby throwing the water out of a bath when they cannot get everything their way.

03-18-2011, 08:03 AM	#7
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	That is pretty pathetic. I'm sorry your camera has a problem but you come on here just to make one whining post and then disappear into the Blue Yonder again ? Why ? Sad, very sad and bitter ... and pointless. Toys out of the pram big time.

03-18-2011, 08:10 AM	#8
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Frogfish That is pretty pathetic. I'm sorry your camera has a problem but you come on here just to make one whining post and then disappear into the Blue Yonder again ? Why ? Sad, very sad and bitter ... and pointless. Toys out of the pram big time. +1 I spent over 25 years in CES retail and the number of times i heard this whine was insane. Every brand i dealt with had product break (and I dealt with every large manufacturer and a large number of small very high end very high quality ones at points as well Product breaks down it happens. no manufacturer offers discounts or replacement/repair on out of warranty product. the only time i've ever seen it happen is when an individual product has a long history of warranty issues and then breaks again shortly after the warranty. so if your camera had been problematic throughout the warranty period and experienced the same issues again just post warranty i could see them doing something. but not in this case. good luck with whatever you choose next but don't expect a different result if the same thing happens in 3 years no matter what you buy

03-18-2011, 12:45 PM	#10
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by deraeler I'll never buy another pentax - enjoy your forum!! Thanks. I always enjoy this forum. I enjoy your absence too.

03-18-2011, 12:51 PM	#11
RXrenesis8 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando, FL (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 523	Obvious troll is obvious.

03-18-2011, 12:59 PM	#12
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	how in gods name did this troll get 10 rep points? with 1 post and no likes?

03-18-2011, 05:15 PM	#14
wasser Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: northern ca Photos: Gallery Posts: 427	Just an FYI to the OP, my first digital camera was a Canon. It, quite ironically, stopped working after 3 years. Now, I didn't attempt to get Canon to pay for it, but I thought the OP might benefit from this info and also avoid all Canon products.

03-18-2011, 06:13 PM	#15
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Originally posted by RXrenesis8 Obvious troll is obvious. Ya think? With a name like Deraeler (derailer)?