K10D manual mode

orcrown · 05-03-2011, 12:52 AM

Hi,everybody. In manual mode, after I set the aperture and shutter values, I press on the shutter release button and the camera doesn't obey me and gives its own values.The values change and I get overexposed pictures.Thanks.

JeffJS · 05-03-2011, 02:18 AM

It sounds like you are not in manual mode. A few more details may be needed. I know it's a long way from the shutter button but is it possible you are hitting the Green button? What type of lens are you using?

hillerby · 05-03-2011, 02:49 PM

More information is definately in order .......... I use my K10 in manual most of the time with a variety of lenses with no problems to date.

orcrown · 05-04-2011, 09:36 PM

I am sure that I don't press on the green button. I am using 35mm f2,8 ltd. macro, Sigma 10-20,50-200mm. Yesterday I tried and tried many times and the result is the same. I set the values as I want and when I press on the shutter release, camera turns its values and pictures get dark or overexposed. Please help I don't know what to do.Thanks.

calicojack · 05-05-2011, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by orcrown

I am sure that I don't press on the green button. I am using 35mm f2,8 ltd. macro, Sigma 10-20,50-200mm. Yesterday I tried and tried many times and the result is the same. I set the values as I want and when I press on the shutter release, camera turns its values and pictures get dark or overexposed. Please help I don't know what to do.Thanks.

Try putting the camera in P mode or even Green mode just to see if the meter is working correctly.
Then post a picture or two (with the EXIF included), shot in M mode and note what you wanted the shutter, aperture and ISO to be and what changed.
I routinely use the P mode on my K10D, but I tried the M mode, just to see if I could accidentally make the camera do as you say. It never happened.

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 06:51 AM

Dear Calicojack,I took some shots as you said here are the results: I put the camera in P mode and set 30 for shutter and 8 for aperture.It changes to 45/8 while I press on the release button. Then I put it in green mode and set it 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.Then I set M mode and set 45/8. But it changes to 45/6,7. In M mode; I set it 45/8, but when I press on the button slightly, it changes to 45/6,7. I think something wrong,isn't it ?

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 07:01 AM

Oh, I forgot to write the exif data.I took a last shot with it.I set the camera 60/8 in M mode but camera took it with 45/6,7. The data is; m mode, ISO 200, WB is cloudy, JPEG 10M, sRGB, +/- is +0,5, 35mm,AF.S.

SpecialK · 05-05-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by orcrown

I put the camera in P mode and set 30 for shutter and 8 for aperture.It changes to 45/8 while I press on the release button. Then I put it in green mode and set it 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.

In P mode or Green mode, you do not set the shutter or aperture. If you turn the dials in P mode it will put you into Av or Tv mode, though you should still get a decent exposure.

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 07:23 AM

You are right for green mode but you can change shutter and aperture in P mode. I am wrong with the green mode.I must have said "The camera shows -in green mode- 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 07:30 AM

Yes I got it now excuse me.But my problem is still goes on.

calicojack · 05-05-2011, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by orcrown

You are right for green mode but you can change shutter and aperture in P mode. I am wrong with the green mode.I must have said "The camera shows -in green mode- 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.

In P mode, if you change either the shutter or the aperture, the other one will change to accomodate it. That is why the full name of "P" mode is Hyper Program. In "M" mode, reset your exposure bias to +/- 0.0 and try it again.

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 07:59 AM

How can I reset it?

calicojack · 05-05-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by orcrown

How can I reset it?

Turn the camera on. Place your right thumb on the +/- button on the back and turn the front dial with your finger. Adjust it to the middle, 0.0

orcrown · 05-05-2011, 08:28 AM

I can do it in TAv,Av,Tv,Sv,P Modes but I cannot do it in M mode.

calicojack · 05-05-2011, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by orcrown

I can do it in TAv,Av,Tv,Sv,P Modes but I cannot do it in M mode.

I just tried it with mine. The odd part is that I tried it in reverse. In other words, in P I set it for +/- -1.0 and took a picture. Checking the info it showed +/- -1.0 as expected. Then I went to M without adjusting the +/-. I composed and green buttoned the exposure, then took the picture. Checking the info it shows the +/- as 0.0. As soon as I go back to anything other than M the +/- shows as -1.0 again. As far as I can test, the +/- should not be reading anything but 0.0 in M mode. If you're sure that you are getting a non-0 reading in M, maybe try doing a general reset. Under Menu, go to Set-up. Scroll up one click and reset "Back to Initial Settings". I don't know what else to suggest.

05-03-2011, 12:52 AM	#1
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14	K10D manual mode Hi,everybody. In manual mode, after I set the aperture and shutter values, I press on the shutter release button and the camera doesn't obey me and gives its own values.The values change and I get overexposed pictures.Thanks.

05-03-2011, 02:49 PM	#3
hillerby Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sherman Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 224	More Info Needed More information is definately in order .......... I use my K10 in manual most of the time with a variety of lenses with no problems to date.

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05-03-2011, 02:18 AM	#2
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	It sounds like you are not in manual mode. A few more details may be needed. I know it's a long way from the shutter button but is it possible you are hitting the Green button? What type of lens are you using?

05-04-2011, 09:36 PM	#4
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	I am sure that I don't press on the green button. I am using 35mm f2,8 ltd. macro, Sigma 10-20,50-200mm. Yesterday I tried and tried many times and the result is the same. I set the values as I want and when I press on the shutter release, camera turns its values and pictures get dark or overexposed. Please help I don't know what to do.Thanks.

05-05-2011, 04:41 AM	#5
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by orcrown I am sure that I don't press on the green button. I am using 35mm f2,8 ltd. macro, Sigma 10-20,50-200mm. Yesterday I tried and tried many times and the result is the same. I set the values as I want and when I press on the shutter release, camera turns its values and pictures get dark or overexposed. Please help I don't know what to do.Thanks. Try putting the camera in P mode or even Green mode just to see if the meter is working correctly. Then post a picture or two (with the EXIF included), shot in M mode and note what you wanted the shutter, aperture and ISO to be and what changed. I routinely use the P mode on my K10D, but I tried the M mode, just to see if I could accidentally make the camera do as you say. It never happened.

05-05-2011, 06:51 AM	#6
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	Dear Calicojack,I took some shots as you said here are the results: I put the camera in P mode and set 30 for shutter and 8 for aperture.It changes to 45/8 while I press on the release button. Then I put it in green mode and set it 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.Then I set M mode and set 45/8. But it changes to 45/6,7. In M mode; I set it 45/8, but when I press on the button slightly, it changes to 45/6,7. I think something wrong,isn't it ?

05-05-2011, 07:01 AM	#7
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	Oh, I forgot to write the exif data.I took a last shot with it.I set the camera 60/8 in M mode but camera took it with 45/6,7. The data is; m mode, ISO 200, WB is cloudy, JPEG 10M, sRGB, +/- is +0,5, 35mm,AF.S.

05-05-2011, 07:11 AM	#8
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by orcrown I put the camera in P mode and set 30 for shutter and 8 for aperture.It changes to 45/8 while I press on the release button. Then I put it in green mode and set it 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button. In P mode or Green mode, you do not set the shutter or aperture. If you turn the dials in P mode it will put you into Av or Tv mode, though you should still get a decent exposure.

05-05-2011, 07:23 AM	#9
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	You are right for green mode but you can change shutter and aperture in P mode. I am wrong with the green mode.I must have said "The camera shows -in green mode- 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button.

05-05-2011, 07:30 AM	#10
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	Yes I got it now excuse me.But my problem is still goes on.

05-05-2011, 07:37 AM	#11
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by orcrown You are right for green mode but you can change shutter and aperture in P mode. I am wrong with the green mode.I must have said "The camera shows -in green mode- 125/4,5.But it changes to 90/4 after I press on the button. In P mode, if you change either the shutter or the aperture, the other one will change to accomodate it. That is why the full name of "P" mode is Hyper Program. In "M" mode, reset your exposure bias to +/- 0.0 and try it again.

05-05-2011, 07:59 AM	#12
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	How can I reset it?

05-05-2011, 08:12 AM	#13
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by orcrown How can I reset it? Turn the camera on. Place your right thumb on the +/- button on the back and turn the front dial with your finger. Adjust it to the middle, 0.0

05-05-2011, 08:28 AM	#14
orcrown Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 14 Original Poster	I can do it in TAv,Av,Tv,Sv,P Modes but I cannot do it in M mode.

05-05-2011, 09:37 AM	#15
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by orcrown I can do it in TAv,Av,Tv,Sv,P Modes but I cannot do it in M mode. I just tried it with mine. The odd part is that I tried it in reverse. In other words, in P I set it for +/- -1.0 and took a picture. Checking the info it showed +/- -1.0 as expected. Then I went to M without adjusting the +/-. I composed and green buttoned the exposure, then took the picture. Checking the info it shows the +/- as 0.0. As soon as I go back to anything other than M the +/- shows as -1.0 again. As far as I can test, the +/- should not be reading anything but 0.0 in M mode. If you're sure that you are getting a non-0 reading in M, maybe try doing a general reset. Under Menu, go to Set-up. Scroll up one click and reset "Back to Initial Settings". I don't know what else to suggest.