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05-05-2011, 05:35 AM   #1
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Fish eye lens help :)

Heyy i am looking to buy a fish eye lens, i have a k200d, yes its a bit old (should i buy a new one?) im not sure, but anyway, i saw in one of the massive fish eye forums that everyone was talking about the Pentax SMC DA Digital Fish-Eye 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 lens. well i really want it, but not sure where to buy it, ive been looking on ebay, and was wondering if maybe this is the one they were talking about
Pentax SMC DA Digital Fish-Eye 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 lens | eBay

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05-05-2011, 06:21 AM   #2
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It's a great lens and yes that's the one in your link. You see them here on our marketplace forum from time to time. Might research the price a bit. I'm not exactly sure but I think they can be had for a bit less.

This lens is always a lot of fun.
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Watch the For Sale forum here. I think I paid $350 for my copy and it's worth every buck. It's a lot of fun to play with and zoomed to 17mm it's not super-fishy. If you have dogs and/or kids you'll have hours of fun with this lens. The kids will, too, but make sure that strap's around their neck!
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<snip> i have a k200d, yes its a bit old (should i buy a new one?) im not sure, but anyway, <snip>
Why would you think that?? K200D is a very capable camera.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Neychannn Quote
i have a k200d, yes its a bit old (should i buy a new one?)
Not unless you absolutely need the some of the features (such as better AF, better IQ at high ISOs) of the later cameras. At ISO 100-200, the K200D is a very fine camera capable of holding its own, in terms of image quality, with nearly any APS-C digital camera. The K-7 has a lot more features and better AF (but not better IQ), the K-x and K-r have better AF and better high ISO performance, but only the K-5 is superior in nearly every respect to the K200D.

The Pentax DA 10-17 is a very fine lens, more versatile than prime fish-eyes, with outstanding contrast and color rendition (though prone to CA issues and hardly tack sharp).
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Solid advice from the previous posters.
+1 on the K200D, a very decent body.
+2 on the 10-17mm, a most remarkable lens.
With both you'd have a solid combination.
Unless you need the lens now, I would wait on ebay and be patient and see what the PF marketplace produces. Got mine here for less than ebay or elsewhere. Good luck.
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I've seem them for $100 less in the Marketplace. They show up from time to time.
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The DA10-17 is what drove me to Pentax in the first place. I'd shot for many decades but never with a Pentax till 3 years ago. I got my first dSLR (K20D) mainly because I wanted to do ultrawide / fisheye shooting. The DA10-17 was (and still is) the most cost-effective fisheye zoom offered, and it's a damn fine lens. And it's about my most FUN lens!

The Pentax-compatible alternatives that I know of are not so good. I have three:

* a Kenko 180 Degree fisheye adapter -- I mount this on a 35-80 zoom; it gives a full-circle image around 40mm, and a frame-filled image at 60mm. It's interesting for exploring fishy projections, but isn't very sharp around the edges. I overpaid at US$80.

* a Vemar 12/8 with Waterhouse stops -- very fishy on a FF camera, pretty fishy on APS-C, but hard to use and, like the Kenko, the IQ isn't the greatest. I have great focus problems with mine. I overpaid at US$120.

* a Zenitar 16/2.8 in PK-M mount -- quite fishy on FF, slightly fishy on APS-C. Notably faster than the DA10-17 which at 16mm is f/4.5 vs the Zen's f/2.8. Wide-open, the edges aren't great, but it's comparable to the 10-17 when stopped down. I like it for indoor group shots and vertical 'scapes. No, the Zen isn't as flexible as the 10-17, but I tend to use it more because of the speed. I paid US$160, typical then; now it's more like S$200, still a relative bargain.

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