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05-25-2011, 10:52 PM   #46
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Sure there is - it's just a question of looking.
to tell you the truth, I don't feel very comfortable buying used stuff, especially from someone thousands of miles away from me...

05-25-2011, 11:26 PM   #47
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I guess that my options right now are either 55-300 (new) or 18-250 (used. the new one is too expensive).
but the used 18-250 is still more expensive than the new 55-300 (by ~100$).
what do you think...?

(dammit, where is my simple P&S camera? no need to worry about lenses...)
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i'm in the 2 lens camp here, i've had a super zoom and it was less han inspiring, save the $100-$300 and grab the 55-300 which by all accounts is an excellent lens, then you have $100 say to grab a nice fast 50 like an A 50 f 1.7 when when you get caught in low light and can't/don't want to use flash Welcome to entry level LBA
Really changing lenses isn't a big deal with the exception of when you are caught in dusty conditions where dust may get in the body.
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I'd only advocate a superzoom lens as a way to placate an impatient girlfriend (or boyfriend, I guess, but I've never heard of that happening) while on holiday, but only to a certain extent. Rushed pictures are usually not worth taking.

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I'd only advocate a superzoom lens as a way to placate an impatient girlfriend (or boyfriend, I guess, but I've never heard of that happening) while on holiday, but only to a certain extent. Rushed pictures are usually not worth taking.
Got to admit, my wife loses patience with me when I go into Photo Mode on Vacation If we are in a City where there is transit that's usually where we separate and meet up later. the Superzoom didn't help that at all as it's the time taken to make a good shot, if i'm shooting people i need to get in the zone which pretty much means being oblivious to anything else but shooting, even architecture etc requires focus on the task so to speak
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If you're considering the 55-300 but are concerned with price, you might as well consider the 50-200 as well. not quite as long, not quite as good optically, but still perfectly usable. But really, if you're more concerned with price and changing lenses, I'd just get the Tamron 18-200. I've used it, and if it's not quite as good as the 18-250 or the two separate lenses it might replace, it's still fine for most purposes, and you can always get better lenses later for use when the situation demands it.
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If you're considering the 55-300 but are concerned with price
Its price is OK for me (the DAL version). I consider it because (1) it's cheaper than 18-250 (2) its IQ is better than 18-250.
As stupid as it may sound, what stops me from buying the 55-300 is the "P&S mentality".
I stopped considering the 18-200 because of bad reviews.
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Did I mention this before? My original and basic K20D lens kit were the DA10-17, DA18-250, and FA50/1.4. Those are still pretty much my most-used lenses, especially when traveling, although the Tamron 10-24 has wormed its way into the lineup, and some manual primes. I consider the DA18-250 as my basic lens, with all my 200+ others as specialty tools.

I do NOT like two-lens kits like 18-55 + 55-300 because I do a lot of shooting between 35-70mm (just the place for my ten-buck F35-70, eh?) and I find swapping lenses at ~55mm to be intolerably clumsy. That's why I don't use my kit.lens + Tamron 60-300 pair -- the DA18-250 is just miles ahead in terms of convenience.

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I just wanted to point out that all those threads discussing Tamron QC issues can come true if you are unlucky, as I just went through some back and forth shipping to Tamron customer service.
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I do NOT like two-lens kits like 18-55 + 55-300 because I do a lot of shooting between 35-70mm
That issue also crossed my mind...
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QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
I do NOT like two-lens kits like 18-55 + 55-300 because I do a lot of shooting between 35-70mm (just the place for my ten-buck F35-70, eh?) and I find swapping lenses at ~55mm to be intolerably clumsy. -- the DA18-250 is just miles ahead in terms of convenience.
Same here. I don't have the 18-250 but I may consider the 18-135 for that very reason, but my Sigma 17-70 covers the sweet spot range fairly well.
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is it correct to say (zoom wise) that using K-x with 55-300 all the time is aprox. like using a P&S camera with a 1:6 zoom?
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Not at all. A P&S camera with 1:6 zoom probably goes from the APS-C equivalent of about 20mm to about 120mm. 20mm is wide angle, 120mm is medium telephoto. Somewhere around 30-35mm is the range we consider "normal" (a huge can of worms in itself). So a 20-120 is a perfectly useful general purpose. But 55-300 is nothing but telephoto - from short telephoto to long telephoto. The 55-300 would be more like a camera that was supposedly to be 15X (20-300mm), but was broken and could only get to the telephoto end of the range.

I've probably suggested this before, but you really should find yourself a good basic book on photography to explain the basics of focal length, f-stop, etc.
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I've probably suggested this before, but you really should find yourself a good basic book on photography to explain the basics of focal length, f-stop, etc.
you did, and I told you that I know these basics (really), but it seems that there are few things that I missed till now

another question (don't remember whether already answered ): is a difference in IQ between 55-300 and 50-200 ?
Thanks.
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See the lens reviews on this site for more detailed answers to questions like that (click the Lenses link at the top of this page), but yes, the 55-300 is generally considered optically superior, which is why it costs more.
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