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10-26-2011, 02:52 AM   #1
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what settings to use for shoot

my kids have a play I need to take photos this weekend
I have a Kr and will be using kit lens 18-55 and 50-200
not greatly lit but but not really dark either
what settings would you use to take good exposed photo's


10-26-2011, 03:03 AM   #2
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SR on
Tv mode
1/100-second shutter
Let ISO float -- Kr is good at high ISO

Stay about 5mm away from the extremes with either lens, i.e. don't zoom all the way in or out. That's where their optics are weakest.
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What I see as reasonably lit is often disappointing when I look at the settings that are needed

Although it depends on how close you are to the stage, I think that the telezoom will be the tool to use and that you will be using it a lot at the longer end. I personally use Av and fixed ISO and keep a close eye on the shutterspeed. Center focus and center weight average metering.

To give you an idea of what I thought was well lit and what was actually required, I took the below photo in the past weekend.

K5 / DFA100WR, Av mode, ISO 3200, f/4, 1/320s, auto white balance, no flash, center weight metering, center focus; subject distance approximately 15 meters (resized jpeg from camera, no pp).

Your telezoom probably is f/5.6 at its best at 200mm so you will already be down to 1/160s or so which I personally consider the limit. If you have an external flash that allows to use AF assist without flash, take it with and use it for that. I've found that the AF assists of the AF540 is a lot stronger than the AF assist of the K5.
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According to Wikipedia, the necessary exposure value in stage shows and similar indoor events is about 8-9 EV. However, exposure parameters of Sterretje’s photo shows that exposure value was about 7,3 EV. So I think that you should prepare to take photographs at light corresponding to 7-9 EV. If you use telephoto large focal length (it is very likely), for example, you should use shutter speed at least 1/350 (old rule of thumb). SR allows going one or more steps lower. However, people on stage are moving. So I think shutter speed 1/350 might the appropriate minimum (may you cab use 1/300 or something like). The widest aperture for standard kit lens at focal length 200 mm is F5.6. It means that you should use very high ISO in order to achieve exposure value 7-9 EV. For example:
1) to achieve 9.5 EV, you should use ISO 1600, aperture F5.6 and shutter speed 1/350,
2) to achieve 9 EV, you should use ISO 3200, F6.7 and 1/350 or F5.6 and 1/500,
3) to achieve 8.5 EV, you should use ISO 3200, aperture F5.6 and shutter speed 1/350,
4) to achieve 8 EV, you should use ISO 6400, F6.7 and 1/350 or F5.6 and 1/500,
5) to achieve 7.5 EV, you should use ISO 6400, aperture F5.6 and shutter speed 1/350,

I do not say that you should use Manual mode with these parameters . These parameters are only for illustration. I think these parameters show you some challenge. First, these are high ISO. So there might be problems of noise. Second, the DOF will be quite shallow at F5.6 and focal length 200 mm. According to an online calculator the length of DOF will be only 1.26 m if you focus on object located 15 m from the camera. So there might be hard to take sharp photo.

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Check to see if they have a technical dress rehearsal you can attend. This will allow you to check the lighting, practice your settings, and they may even let you use flash if you ask.

I've shot several of my kid's plays with my Sigma DG 500 Super flash during the last dress rehearsal. An additional benefit to this is you can leave the camera at home during the actual performance and enjoy watching your kids.

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Do you do any "post processing" using programs like Lightroom? If so, consider shooting raw instead of jpg, which will give you more leeway in your post processing.
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thanks for all your help
will go earlier and try a few settings
maybe shoot raw and try to fix in lightroom
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Make sure you let that shake reduction enable before snapping the shot, too.


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