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12-19-2011, 05:23 PM   #1
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Newbie with a K20d

Was searching for a dslr on craigslist for a while. Was actually looking for a nikon because friends have them and borrowing lenses and stuff would have been nice. But I got a k20d for what I think was a good price at 250. I actually like it better than the nikon and my color accuracy seems better than the canon 5d a coworker has when we were shooting my office reef tank. Any way im ready for lenses and being a newbie I just gonna come right out and ask.

I need a fast lens for indoor kid shoots.

And a good lens, thinkin tamron 70-300 macro, for my reef and eagles up at my cottage.

The kit 18-55 is ok in low light on a tripod but I dont even bother trying to catch the kids with it anymore. The flash is just hideous to me and I hate using them, but then again I dont have a good flash either


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12-19-2011, 05:27 PM   #2
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I have a feeling this might be too expensive (although it's quite cheap in its class), but it's definitely fast and definitely good

Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD (IF) Macro AF Lens AF001P-700 B&H

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ya just a tad out of the price range. a pentax 55-300 would be a shoe in if it had a close focus
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I have a Sigma DC 17-70 and like it very much . You can find it affordable sometime in the used markets .

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Have you considered 2 lenses--that way you have a better fit and likely less money. (A fast good zoom is expensive, and still may not do people/kids indoors--depending on the distance.)

Maybe decide which is more important and get (first) either: (1) 35mm f/2 or a 50mm f/1.7 [would be good for indoors/low light of people, etc.] with a teleconverter (regular 2x or 2x macro) for close ups, and (2) a slower zoom (or fixed longer focal length) for the eagles, ...
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You don't say what you budget is, what focal length you prefer, or if you are OK with Manual focus. But he default choice for low light indoor lens is the DA35/2.4 unless there is some specific reason you need something else.
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Btw...$250 for a K20 is a very good deal. You made a great choice.
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the budget is pretty much the DA series price range. I would be ok to manual focus the zoom lens but I cant manual and try to keep up with the kids. Im accepting that the fast prime for indoors is gonna break the budget
The teleconveters are something id like to learn more about.

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i found a link around here somewhere, i think a recent post, the ultimate exposer computer. and it started to bring back memories of my K-1000 days shooting b&w in high school. we actually developed our own film there too. so i grabbed the camera and started messing around the house shooting in manual mode. using the light bar and selecting the iso, f stop and everything else really brought back the old days and suprised me how similar the dslr was to the old film when it came to manual. I even got quite a few nice photos of random stuffed animals and stuff in low light on a tripod, i also started to see what ive read about the pentaxs seeming underexposed. my photos always turned out better a notch or two high on the light bar.
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Do you still have that K1000 and/or any of the lenses for it?
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No it was a school camera. I might pick up a cheap old f2 50mm just to have local though on craiglist. Old k1000s with lens pop up every other day under $50
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photo i took last night

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-19JtM-LSld4/TvHVtZccVRI/AAAAAAAABWo/ib2T_...0/PTX_2826.JPG
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Great price on a great camera! But it's not the high-ISO champ, so yes, fast glass is needed for indoor shots of squirmin' vermin (hyperactive kids). I have a zillion lenses: a dozen zooms, none fast, split MF & AF; one AF prime; and a couple hundred non-AF primes, mostly old cheap stuff. How do I capture the grandkids' frantic motions with my K20D?

* Sometimes I switch to B&W, boost ISO to 2400, turn NR way down, use a slower lens, pretend I'm shooting pushed Tri-X.
* For color I leave ISO at 1600 or less, or use bounce flash, and use a faster lens and some social engineering (see below).

* Fast lenses: the FA50/1.4 is necessary; and my Vivitar-Kiron 24/2, and Vivitar-Komine 28/2 CF, and even the Zenitar 16/2.8.
* Use CIF (catch-in-focus) with manual lenses: Prefocus on a spot, hold the shutter down; when the kid arrives, it SNAPs.

* Social engineering, a trick learnt from my dad: Train the kids so when the togger says HAY, they freeze for just a moment.
* Social engineering, part 2: Don't leave the kids indoors. Make them run around outside in the sunlight. It's much easier.

I'm maybe saving up for a Tamron 17-50/2.8. That and the FA50/1.4 should be a little handier than swapping faster primes. But I do pretty OK with what I have. Good luck!

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QuoteOriginally posted by no694terry Quote
the budget is pretty much the DA series price range. I would be ok to manual focus the zoom lens but I cant manual and try to keep up with the kids. Im accepting that the fast prime for indoors is gonna break the budget
The teleconveters are something id like to learn more about.
The 35/2.4 is only $200. You won't find a better deal than that for the stated purpose.
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is the old 50mm M F1.4 any good. can get one today for $20, also a vivitar 28-80 for $20. comes with a free pentax Me super and a flash
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