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12-21-2011, 10:58 AM   #1
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Pentax - Why so expensive?

So Canon, Nikon and Sony all have a 50mm decently fast AF prime for around £100.

Pentax's 50mm f1.7 goes for more than twice as much as the Canon's, used!

Whats going on? Why so expensive? :/

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I bought my FA 50/1.4 for $189 new a few years ago, and now it goes for $359. I don't understand why they had such a huge spike in the price. I can understand exchange rates and inflation, but this is a bit high. The 1.7 is used and highly regarded, the price is set by the community. As far as competing with Nikon and Canon, the Pentax lens is full frame. The Nikon FX lens is $439.00.
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I noticed how the products went much higher than the RRP of when they were released I don't know why though, was hoping someone here could enlighten me.

Could just be that they discontinued it and left a limited amount therefore creating a bigger demand for it. I hope they bring out a new line of lenses though.
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QuoteOriginally posted by userage Quote
I hope they bring out a new line of lenses though.
There are a few here who think they'll have too... Especially if there is amove to full frame...

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QuoteOriginally posted by kenafein Quote
I bought my FA 50/1.4 for $189 new a few years ago, and now it goes for $359. I don't understand why they had such a huge spike in the price. I can understand exchange rates and inflation, but this is a bit high. The 1.7 is used and highly regarded, the price is set by the community. As far as competing with Nikon and Canon, the Pentax lens is full frame. The Nikon FX lens is $439.00.
When it was 189 it was drastically under priced (pre Hoya) and needed to be addressed. Any lens of comparable quality and speed is the same or higher priced even now at $359

The loss of the F50 1.7 as a low price alternate was a mistake IMO It wouldn't be sub $200 like the Canon but it is a better lens with a metal mount (versus the plastic on the Canon)

I imagine if FF makes an appearance it may well return in a new lower cost form like the Canon.

the argument (a poor one BTW) is the 35 2.4 is the Pentax APSC variant
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What is needed is a DA50/1.7 or 2.0 and a 28/2.8 or 3.5 in the same price range as the DA35/2.4. If they made a plastic mount DA18/3.5 for less than $200 I would buy it in an instant.

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While I loved 50mm on 35mm film, it's an odd duck in the world of APS-C - a bit too long for indoors and a bit too short for outdoors. Recognizing the difference of APS-C, Pentax came out with a cheap DA35 F2.4. I don't have one but everything I've heard about it suggests that it's a good, cheap, all purpose lens.

Here are the reviews:
Pentax-DA 35mm F2.4 AL Reviews - DA Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
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QuoteOriginally posted by userage Quote
I noticed how the products went much higher than the RRP of when they were released I don't know why though, was hoping someone here could enlighten me.

Could just be that they discontinued it and left a limited amount therefore creating a bigger demand for it. I hope they bring out a new line of lenses though.
Partly it's economy of scale- how many Canikon 50mm lenses are produced each year vs. Pentax? The more you make (and sell) the less you can sell them for and still make a decent profit.

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Partly it's economy of scale- how many Canikon 50mm lenses are produced each year vs. Pentax? The more you make (and sell) the less you can sell them for and still make a decent profit.
Canon also knows they are going to sell one to you every other year or so. That's about how long they last before they self-destruct.
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Canon also knows they are going to sell one to you every other year or so. That's about how long they last before they self-destruct.
All part of the nefarious marketing plan… and it works.
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What is needed is a DA50/1.7 or 2.0 and a 28/2.8
I think a new budget DA50mm f2 with the plastic mount to sit with the FA50 1.4 and an immediate production run of the FA28mm 2.8
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QuoteOriginally posted by userage Quote
So Canon, Nikon and Sony all have a 50mm decently fast AF prime for around £100.

Pentax's 50mm f1.7 goes for more than twice as much as the Canon's, used!

Whats going on? Why so expensive? :/
Pentax has no cntrol over what people charge for used lenses. Because there is no new 50/1.7, people charge what they can for used ones. But when comparing lenses that all three manufacturers do make - like 50/1.4's, 16-50/2.8, etc - you'll see Pentax is *not* unusually expensive overall. Some lenses Pentax makes happen to be a little more than the others, some happen to be a little cheaper, but on average, they are all about the same.
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The Pentax equivalent to a 50 (35 f/2.4) is 150$. And don't believe everything you read on the internet; the cheapo Nikon 50 with ''decently fast AF'' can't even autofocus on entry level bodies and the one 50 that can AF costs roughly 220$.
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The bottom line is all comes down to offer and demand.
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The gap is really the 50 f1.7, cheap-o lens. As others have mentioned, this lens is not really a normal lens on APS-C (which Pentax doesn't have a full frame camera yet). The 50 f1.4s from various companies are all priced fairly comparably and I don't think the FA 50 is over priced for what it is. The DA 35 f2.5 really fits the cheap normal bill, although, it isn't fast enough to fit the role the fast 50 once did. Too bad they didn't make it f1.8 or f2. Then it would be about perfect.
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