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12-26-2006, 03:53 PM   #16
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Now that we have spent all your money on lenses, don't forget memory card(s)and software to process the pictures you will be taking. I use photoshop elements but others use other software and are happy with it. Another thing you might think about is how you are going to originze you pictures on your computer. You will be amazed at how quickly they accumulate, and if you don't have them originazed in some fashon, you will lose them. Or at least spend way too much time looking for them.
Have fun with your new camera and lenses. They will expand your horizons if you are used to a p&s.
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12-26-2006, 10:42 PM   #17
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Lemmee see... I'd drop the kit lens and get anything else. The 16-45 is tempting, though I got the Sigma 18-50 2.8 but they have a "macro" version out now (not! - it does not replace a true macro lens though it focuses to a couple inches from the subject), or a 17-70 or there abouts. The 50-200 is in the mail to me so I can not give a first hand review but I got it due to great reviews, price, and its much smaller size than my Sigma 70-300. If you get the Sigma 70-300 get the APO which is supposedly the only "good" version.

The 16-45, 50-200 and the macro of your choice. Covers the basics.

Mixed reviews on filters, but how hard can it be to make optically flat glass (for say $20), compared to 7 or 9 ground glass elements, assembled with some degree of precision with other moving parts, for only 12 times as much? I'd think the filter quality is much better than the lens :-)

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No offense to anyone. I usually get more confused by the many answers to the old question; "What lenses should I get with my new camera?"

I've posted this question at dpreview and seen many others. The conclusion is that there are as many preferred lenses out there as there are photographers and they rarely agree. If a relative newbie took all of the advice he or she would have a huge pile of new lenses, mostly unused.

For that reason I ordered my K10 with the kit lens only. That way I can get to know the camera well before making further decisions.

By the way, the kit lens is a good case in point. You hear opinions on this lens varying from "Don't buy it!" to "Great little lens" and everywhere in between. For the money I couldn't pass it up.

Also, as I shoot day to day I'll begin to notice the things I can't do with the kit lens. I'll notice I need a longer lens frequently or I'll wish I could get a little closer to an object or I'll find I'm backing up to walls on interior shots ande wishing I had a little wider lens. Anyway, you get the picture.

Best of all, by the time I've decided on my other lenses I'll have mastered the K10 thoroughly and can then concentrate on taking those prize-winning images.

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Photodan - I agree with you. It is very practical especially for those on an extremely tight budget. I bought my kit for that reason. I'll save up for my lenses and accessories but learn my camera in the meantime.

Retnuhrace - I know you've got the money, but you didn't mention a flash! Lighting can be very important and should not be overlooked. Also trying out a lens yourself to see if it fits your needs or suits your shooting style is always the best bet. Any good camera shop will allow you to try out a wide selection of lenses especially when they know you've got the money

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"For the money I couldn't pass it up"

hard to dissagree with that one when its being practically given away free with the camera.. mind u i did..

but in truth it isnt very good and at the price it sells for on its own in the UK (170) can be bettered easily by sigma or tamron offerings..

i would say this for most pentax lenses.. not the old legacy primes but brand loyalty only goes so far with me.. paying twice as much for a lens purely cos it has pentax written on it dosnt wash..

why pay a fortune for pentax 50 and 100mm macros for example when sigma or tamron offer equal products for less than half the money..

brand loyalty (fanboy-ism) plays a big part in the lens confusion issue..

trog

ps.. pentax does seem to have one thing going for its lenses.. the "small" factor.. third party stuff does seem to be bigger and heavier..

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12-30-2006, 12:50 PM   #21
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First of all, I really appreciate the advice that you guys have given me. However, I have been looking into getting a K10D instead of a K100D for the past couple of days. Here's what I'm thinking:

K10D body for $845
Sigma 17-70 macro for $375
Sigma 70-300 macro APO for $200

What do you guys think?
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"K10D body for $845
Sigma 17-70 macro for $375
Sigma 70-300 macro APO for $200"

spot on.. u couldnt really do better with just two lenses.. a nice starting point..

trog

ps.. u could buy the k100 and have a nice sigma 50mm 2.8 prime macro as well for the same money.. he he
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Aaaaaaaah!!! Now I have to decide between getting the K10D with the 2 lenses and the K100D with the 2 lenses + the prime macro. And just when I thought I was close to deciding on the whole thing...

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Go with the K100D. Unless you are familiar with DSLR photography, I think the K100D will be plenty enough camera for you. It takes EXCELLENT photographs and I doubt you will miss the extra 4 megapixels. DSLR photography is more about the lenses IMHO, not the body.

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Get the kit lens DA18-55 (can't beat it for $70), DA50-200, Tamron 90 Macro (non DI <$200), external flash (Sigma 500, not super <$200) and a couple of A or M lenses, A50/1.7 (<$100), A28/2.8 (<$100), M135/3.5 (<$80) and for a fun lens the Zenitar 16/2.8 (<$135). Get a couple of 1gig cards, a good camera bag, and polerizer filter for the kit and 50-200. I would not get the DA16-45 I have it and it is overrated for the cost, it underexposes and you can not use the on board flash at wider then 22mm. For PP software PSE3 or 5 will work well for learning and not $$$, also Google Picasa2 (FREE) is compatible with Pentax PEF...
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Ok, I think I've been swayed back to the K100D. I'll stick with the Sigma 17-70 and the Sigma 70-300, but I think I'm also going to go with the Pentax FA 100mm macro (as it comes with the $100 rebate).
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Hard to go wrong with the 10-17 and 50-200 (about $525 total) and a macro. Keep the kit lens for a placeholder. Hopefully should have a few bucks left for a sturdy tripod for said macro, and cards and batteries.

I wish I did not have my camera. Then I could have the fun of buying a system all over again. LOL.
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QuoteOriginally posted by SpecialK Quote
I wish I did not have my camera. Then I could have the fun of buying a system all over again. LOL.
Haha... it's been fun and confusing for me at the same time. One question though: what would I really need a 10-17mm for?
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QuoteOriginally posted by -=JoN=- Quote
Is this the best macro lens you can get for the K10D, period? Or are there cheaper versions available that produce similar results?
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Final decision: K100D, Sigma 17-70 and 70-300, and Pentax 100mm macro.
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