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02-05-2012, 04:24 AM   #1
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is 135mm long enough? or: do I really have to think twice?

I am considering to buy (my fist) telezoom and I think from what I have seen so far the DA 55-300 is a good choice.

on the other hand there is a used DA* 50-135 on sale locally for a reasonable price (but still twice as much as the 55-300)

I see that the 50-135 is a stellar lens, but I am concerned that it might not be long enough- on the other hand, with superior IQ it would surely be possible to crop a little closer, wouldn't it?

not easy... or is it?

I have the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM as my walkaround lens and am considering the Sigma 10-20 (older version) on the wide end.

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I purchased a 50-135 as it was going for a good price...even before I had a body to attach to it. There is a large difference between 135 and 300mm, almost not comparable really, only you can know if you need to reach 300mm. The 50-135 will hold it's value better than a 55-300 I imagine, so it may not cost you anything to try for a while.
If you are using images for web etc, then yeah cropping will work as you have mentioned, the 50-135 is sharp as.
Though one thing is for sure, the 50-135 is a special lense, and I'm afraid you may find it hard to use anything of less quality after.
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this whole lens thing reminds me of my years I spent having tube audio gear - a lot of choices and almost never a definitive solution
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what about the Tamron 70-200mm f 2.8. Fair price- and slightly longer than the 50-135mm.

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re: Tubes, very good analogy, my mate is in deep tube-trouble-territory at the moment. I feel lenses are similar: you can hear that one tube works best with some music but not others, and be swapping them all the time. Lenses are the same, you will away find a reason to try and find something more suited instead of chilling out and enjoying the music.
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which is why I converted to solid state audio gear....

I suppose I could sit it out and save for a DA*60-250

I had a look at the Tamron- it would cost the same new as the used 50-135 and it is considerably bigger and heavier. (I am going on a 5 week trip to Indonesia and with 2 small children, baggage weight and space are limited.)
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QuoteOriginally posted by slartibartfast Quote
I am going on a 5 week trip to Indonesia and with 2 small children, baggage weight and space are limited.
Duh? You complain about the weight of one lens and next opt for a lens that is about as heavy Aside from that, if weight is THE factor, it should be the DA55-300.
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I wouldn't be able to afford the 60-250 before the trip to Indonesia... maybe I should have mentioned that

It was just hypothetical, anyway- the 60-250 is a long way out of reach

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DA*50-135 and DA 55-300 are for different markets. 50-135 is a less than 3x zoom and designed to provide the best image quality. It weighs nearly twice as much and costs more than twice as much as the 55-300. Also constant f/2.8

55-300 is about a 6x zoom and designed for maximum range and light weight. it is a consumer zoom. It is a very good consumer zoom but you should not compare it to the 50-135. I have the 55-300, it never leaves my bag due to light weight, good image quality and great utility.

The DA*50-135 is clearly the better lens but will it do what you want? If so I would not hesitate to get it if the price is good.
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Long enough for what???

You need to answer this first. The 50-135 is a good lens for weddings and for some indoors theater dance and night club shots and is a reasonable compliment for the 24-70 that you have, but for real tele, outdoor sports and wildlife it is too short by about 3. Although not an option until someone comes out with an SDM tele converter a 70-200/2.8 might be better , but you still end up short. I have an older sigma 20-200/2.8 screw drive and with the 1.4x and 2x TCs it works well for me.
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The Tammy 70-200 with a TC might be your only real choice. I don't know the 50-135, but if you do eventually go for the DA*60-250 you probably don't need it anymore. I know people love it but, 50-135 is just an odd range.
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QuoteOriginally posted by slartibartfast Quote
I am considering to buy (my fist) telezoom and I think from what I have seen so far the DA 55-300 is a good choice.

on the other hand there is a used DA* 50-135 on sale locally for a reasonable price (but still twice as much as the 55-300)

I see that the 50-135 is a stellar lens, but I am concerned that it might not be long enough- on the other hand, with superior IQ it would surely be possible to crop a little closer, wouldn't it?

not easy... or is it?

I have the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM as my walkaround lens and am considering the Sigma 10-20 (older version) on the wide end.
For a first tele zoom, the 55-300 is the best choice around. My first zoom for digital was the DA 50-200--super compact, and decent quality on sunny days. There was no 55-300 then, but now it is pretty much a no-brainer to snag that one as a complement to the kit lens or the Sigma. I don't own the 50-135, though I have been tempted. The more compact and cheaper high-quality alternative for a fast tele is one of the film-era 135/2.8 or 2.5 lenses.
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well, I went and got me the 50-135 - the price was OK and I'll see how things develop i am not interested in outdoor sports at all and the wildlife comes very close to here where I live- (i had a moose walking by my window the other day while I was sitting on the toilet )

I am considering to exchange theSigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM for theSigma 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM - any idea how these two compare in the overlapping focal lengths?

thanks for your help!
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QuoteOriginally posted by slartibartfast Quote
well, I went and got me the 50-135 - the price was OK and I'll see how things develop i am not interested in outdoor sports at all and the wildlife comes very close to here where I live- (i had a moose walking by my window the other day while I was sitting on the toilet )

I am considering to exchange theSigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM for theSigma 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM - any idea how these two compare in the overlapping focal lengths?

thanks for your help!
I started reading this thread and was about to comment that in your position I would go for the 50-135 (or better still the Sigma 50-150 if you could find it used) so congratulations on your wonderful new lens !

There is a major pro and a major negative to exchanging the 24-70 for a 17-50 (and consider the Tamron 17-50 as well, much cheaper than the Sigma, just as sharp, but no HSM). Firstly what do you use the 24-70 for ? The upside is the 17-50 range is excellent for many subjects and that width really helps as a tourist, the 24-70 is better for portraiture and as a general walk around lens. The downside is you may find you always need to carry both of the 17-50 and 50-135 and to swap lens more often than you'd like.
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thank you for your insight- and a well made point - I think I'll keep the 24-70 and getting a dedicated UWA later (the more lenses the better, isn't it? )

thought about the Tamron as well- the local dealer is pushing Sigma quite a lot, though and offering a 5 year warranty with all EX lenses. so this does play into my considerations as well (you get a extended warranty from Tamron but not in Norway - then you have to send the lens abroad)
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