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03-26-2012, 08:58 AM   #1
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UV, ND and Polarizing filters ?

I have a pentax k-r. I'm thinking about getting a filter kit that includes a uv fiter, nd filter, and polarizer filter. Is this the way to go? Would you recommend tiffen or hoya? I've seen good reviews for the tiffen but haven't seen reviews for the hoya. I have a 52mm lens and a 62mm lens. Should I get the size for my bigger lens?

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UV often won't effect the image in a positive way so you can leave those out.
ND filters are quite a bit specialized because of the different strengths, it's not like you can just pick one and be there, it needs some planning.
pol is easier, just pick the best one you can get Polarizing filters test - Results and summary - Lenstip.com (the test isn't perfect but it's something)

About the size, what lenses do you have?
If most lenses are 52mm i won't personally go to the hassle of buying a bigger filter and work with stepdown rings.
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Few issues here.

Buying the largest size filter and using step rings saves money, but the hoods for the smaller lenses won't fit over the filter.

Of the three filters, I'd go for the polarizer first.

ND filters come in different grades and graduations. Buying them in square or oblong format with holder and step rings is worth considering unless you're absolutely sure you want to fit them to the filter thread of the lens.I'd investigate further.

Why do you want a UV filter? Really only good in a limited range of situations.

How have you decided you need these filters? Make sure you understand why before spending money on them.
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I take alot of my pictures outdoors. I've noticed that the sky in my pictures is not the color I'm actually seeing. So, I'm hoping to get closer to that with the polarizing filter. I also have tried to take pictures of the water and think that the polarizing filter would help with that. I don't really feel as though I NEED the uv filter. I like the way the "after" pictures look that I've seen taken with nd filters. So, I thought a kit with both would be nice. Maybe I should just get a polarizing filter for now.

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If you are unsure of the effect/benefit--I agree the PL is likely the 1st to try. If most of your lenses are the smaller diameter I suggest a cheap used Tiffen or Hoya linear (not multicoated) to try. Actually that's what I use (Tiffen). If you have dslr (not film) a step up ring for the larger diameter lens probably will be OK. BTW if contre jour (against the light) PL lens will kill the sparkle off water, and it will often show the bottom (if shallow)--which makes it a dull brown--so PL generally not a help there.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mom2mny Quote
I take alot of my pictures outdoors. I've noticed that the sky in my pictures is not the color I'm actually seeing. So, I'm hoping to get closer to that with the polarizing filter. I also have tried to take pictures of the water and think that the polarizing filter would help with that. I don't really feel as though I NEED the uv filter. I like the way the "after" pictures look that I've seen taken with nd filters. So, I thought a kit with both would be nice. Maybe I should just get a polarizing filter for now.
Have you checked out the While Balance setting in the camera? Using the wrong setting will affect colours, and I find that AWB doesn't get it right all the time.
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Can you give us a link to the "filter kit"? Often these kits are junk.
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Have you checked out the While Balance setting in the camera? Using the wrong setting will affect colours, and I find that AWB doesn't get it right all the time.
AWB isn't really going to effect a blown-out or very pale sky.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mom2mny Quote
I take alot of my pictures outdoors. I've noticed that the sky in my pictures is not the color I'm actually seeing. So, I'm hoping to get closer to that with the polarizing filter. I also have tried to take pictures of the water and think that the polarizing filter would help with that. I don't really feel as though I NEED the uv filter. I like the way the "after" pictures look that I've seen taken with nd filters. So, I thought a kit with both would be nice. Maybe I should just get a polarizing filter for now.
Typically, ND filters are used to get a slower shutter speed. Many people use a ND filter to get a "silky" water effect when photographing rivers and waterfalls.

Polarizers cut down on the reflections from water, as a result you can "see" into a lake, for example, rather than getting a reflected sky.

IMO, a good polarizer is the 1st filter to get.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dms Quote
If you are unsure of the effect/benefit--I agree the PL is likely the 1st to try. If most of your lenses are the smaller diameter I suggest a cheap used Tiffen or Hoya linear (not multicoated) to try. Actually that's what I use (Tiffen). If you have dslr (not film) a step up ring for the larger diameter lens probably will be OK. BTW if contre jour (against the light) PL lens will kill the sparkle off water, and it will often show the bottom (if shallow)--which makes it a dull brown--so PL generally not a help there.
So, I should get a linear instead of a circular polarizing filter? I only have 2 lenses. I have the kit lens that came with my k-r and a tamron 70-300. I've never used a filter before. Should I get one for each lens? Or should I get one and then a step up or down ring?

Thank you. You guys are a great help!
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QuoteOriginally posted by mom2mny Quote
I take alot of my pictures outdoors. I've noticed that the sky in my pictures is not the color I'm actually seeing. So, I'm hoping to get closer to that with the polarizing filter.
Well, the sky is blue, really really really blue and somewhat more blue than you are actually seeing in most cases, a CPL will make the sky look quite a bit better (may still not look like what you are seeing, but will look better). When shooting these outdoor snaps, you may want to focus more on exposure as it sounds like you are getting the "common" blown out sky from an improperly balanced exposure: Always Remember This -> As sophisticated as our digital cameras are (now and even 100 years from now), there is [no replacement for] and there never will be [a good replacement for] user defined or manual exposure parameters!!!
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I would suggest you get a Polarizer for your most used lens to see what it does for you.It works for shooting clouds and sky also water.Vivitar and others have variable ND filters for little money,they are glass and work well.Buying a cheap plexiglass filter kit might not be a good idea.
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Would one of these be good?
Amazon.com: Hoya 62mm Circular Polarizing PL-CIR HMC Multi-Coated Filter: Electronics

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Amazon.com: Tiffen 62mm Circular Polarizer: Camera & Photo
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What lenses do you have? I know you have the kit, so that would require a 52mm filter.

The Hoya filter you linked looks OK, I'm not a fan of Tiffen, though.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mom2mny Quote
I have a pentax k-r. I'm thinking about getting a filter kit that includes a uv fiter, nd filter, and polarizer filter. Is this the way to go? Would you recommend tiffen or hoya? I've seen good reviews for the tiffen but haven't seen reviews for the hoya. I have a 52mm lens and a 62mm lens. Should I get the size for my bigger lens?

Thank you!
All good advice and I too would go for and use a polarizer filter!

However, you need to let us know what lenses you have and if they are Internal Focusing type lenses. If they are not Internal Focusing, a polarizer filter will be darn hard to use if not mind blowing

But yes, a polarizer will help eliminate some unwanted glare and reflections. I use one when I know I'll be in harsh lighting, like the beach etc. Your second best choice MAYBE an ND filter...

As per your question circular or linear: Polarizers
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