i have no software

no694terry · 03-26-2012, 04:59 PM

I got my K20D used and it didn't come with any software, I'm running windows 7 64bit and can't even use the codec.
I keep reading that the Pentax Utilty is free but no luck finding it, even at a cost.

Docrwm · 03-26-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by no694terry

I got my K20D used and it didn't come with any software, I'm running windows 7 64bit and can't even use the codec.
I keep reading that the Pentax Utilty is free but no luck finding it, even at a cost.

This should be the codec for your K20D
PENTAX RAW codec software for Windows : Software Downloads : PENTAX

photolady95 · 03-26-2012, 05:30 PM

That one only runs in 32bit Docrwm, so that is useless to OP. Adobe did come out with one that is for Windows 7 64 bit though. And right now I can't find it.

There are several softwares that are free to use to view and edit your photos. I use FastStone Imageviewer/editor. It does quite a bit of editing as well as viewing.

Docrwm · 03-26-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by photolady

That one only runs in 32bit Docrwm, so that is useless to OP. Adobe did come out with one that is for Windows 7 64 bit though. And right now I can't find it.

There are several softwares that are free to use to view and edit your photos. I use FastStone Imageviewer/editor. It does quite a bit of editing as well as viewing.

Thanks. Sorry that its the wrong one, although I seem to recall that 64 will run 32 stuff, won't it run this specifically?

Ah, now I see:

System requirement OS : Windows Vista (32 bit) and Windows 7 (32 bit)
*It is not compatible with Windows Vista (64bit) and Windows 7 (64 bit)

Docrwm · 03-26-2012, 05:41 PM

This one from Microsoft says it'll do the K20D in 64bit
Download: Microsoft Camera Codec Pack - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details

photolady95 · 03-26-2012, 05:45 PM - **1 Like**

I thought you missed that under message.

And I found this one from Adobe Labs:

DNG Codec - Adobe Labs

**interested_observer** · 03-26-2012, 06:40 PM

You can run 32 bit applications on MS Windows 7 64 bit.

Windows 7 - 64 bit and running 32 bit software? - Microsoft Answers

There is here on the Forum, a thread that addresses how to down load the Pentax application software that is setup as an update, so it will not do a fresh install. However, with the application of a switch on the command line, it will install as an original installation. In that way you can have the standard application software running on your system.

I'll try looking for it...
______________________________
Here is the download....

PENTAX Digital Camera Utility 4 Update for Windows : Software Downloads : PENTAX

... and here are the installation instructions to use with out the CD...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/147551-pentax-d...ility-4-a.html

no694terry · 03-26-2012, 06:44 PM

i just downloaded the link in post #5 and it works but only for the PEF raw files. no support for DGN but i guess dgn is an adobe thing. havent tried the adobe codec yet as i have no adobe stuff. thanks for the help everyone.

photolady95 · 03-26-2012, 07:08 PM

The link from docrwm isn't for DNG files, as stated where they list the cameras it supports, "Pentax (PEF formats only)". But the one for Adobe is for DNG files. This is the one I use on my windows 7 64 bit OS.

**jpzk** · 03-26-2012, 07:35 PM

Can't the OP use DNG vs. PEF files when shooting?

@ photolady: agreed that Fastone is great. Very useful little piece of software.

JP

photolady95 · 03-26-2012, 07:59 PM

Yes, but it has been suggested here that PEF files may not be accessible as DNG files will be in the future. And DNG is a better known format. I would rather have a lot of DNG files when I've a few years older, than PEF files that I may not be able to open. I'll see if I can find the thread about this.

photolady95 · 03-26-2012, 08:05 PM

Found the thread I read before:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/85538-pentax-ra...le-format.html

Docrwm · 03-27-2012, 02:30 AM

Why not install for both? I agree that the Adobe format is more likely to endure and is my choice when shooting RAW.

**newmikey** · 03-27-2012, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by photolady

Yes, but it has been suggested here that PEF files may not be accessible as DNG files will be in the future.

FUD! PEF will always remain both accessible, editable as well as convertible to whatever revision of DNG will be in fashion.

Simply put:
PEF--->DNG possible now and into the foreseeable and further future
DNG-->PEF impossible now, not likely in future

Nuf said!

photolady95 · 03-27-2012, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by newmikey

FUD! PEF will always remain both accessible, editable as well as convertible to whatever revision of DNG will be in fashion.

I find an extra step when not needed, bothersome. And my statement was from something I read in another thread, not my own thinking.

03-26-2012, 04:59 PM	#1
no694terry Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 388	i have no software I got my K20D used and it didn't come with any software, I'm running windows 7 64bit and can't even use the codec. I keep reading that the Pentax Utilty is free but no luck finding it, even at a cost.

03-26-2012, 06:40 PM	#7
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	You can run 32 bit applications on MS Windows 7 64 bit. Windows 7 - 64 bit and running 32 bit software? - Microsoft Answers There is here on the Forum, a thread that addresses how to down load the Pentax application software that is setup as an update, so it will not do a fresh install. However, with the application of a switch on the command line, it will install as an original installation. In that way you can have the standard application software running on your system. I'll try looking for it... ______________________________ Here is the download.... PENTAX Digital Camera Utility 4 Update for Windows : Software Downloads : PENTAX ... and here are the installation instructions to use with out the CD... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/147551-pentax-d...ility-4-a.html

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03-26-2012, 05:10 PM	#2
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by no694terry I got my K20D used and it didn't come with any software, I'm running windows 7 64bit and can't even use the codec. I keep reading that the Pentax Utilty is free but no luck finding it, even at a cost. This should be the codec for your K20D PENTAX RAW codec software for Windows : Software Downloads : PENTAX

03-26-2012, 05:30 PM	#3
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	That one only runs in 32bit Docrwm, so that is useless to OP. Adobe did come out with one that is for Windows 7 64 bit though. And right now I can't find it. There are several softwares that are free to use to view and edit your photos. I use FastStone Imageviewer/editor. It does quite a bit of editing as well as viewing.

03-26-2012, 05:37 PM	#4
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by photolady That one only runs in 32bit Docrwm, so that is useless to OP. Adobe did come out with one that is for Windows 7 64 bit though. And right now I can't find it. There are several softwares that are free to use to view and edit your photos. I use FastStone Imageviewer/editor. It does quite a bit of editing as well as viewing. Thanks. Sorry that its the wrong one, although I seem to recall that 64 will run 32 stuff, won't it run this specifically? Ah, now I see: System requirement OS : Windows Vista (32 bit) and Windows 7 (32 bit) *It is not compatible with Windows Vista (64bit) and Windows 7 (64 bit)

03-26-2012, 05:41 PM	#5
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	This one from Microsoft says it'll do the K20D in 64bit Download: Microsoft Camera Codec Pack - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details

03-26-2012, 05:45 PM - 1 Like	#6
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	I thought you missed that under message. And I found this one from Adobe Labs: DNG Codec - Adobe Labs

03-26-2012, 06:44 PM	#8
no694terry Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 388 Original Poster	i just downloaded the link in post #5 and it works but only for the PEF raw files. no support for DGN but i guess dgn is an adobe thing. havent tried the adobe codec yet as i have no adobe stuff. thanks for the help everyone.

03-26-2012, 07:08 PM	#9
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	The link from docrwm isn't for DNG files, as stated where they list the cameras it supports, "Pentax (PEF formats only)". But the one for Adobe is for DNG files. This is the one I use on my windows 7 64 bit OS.

03-26-2012, 07:35 PM	#10
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Can't the OP use DNG vs. PEF files when shooting? @ photolady: agreed that Fastone is great. Very useful little piece of software. JP

03-26-2012, 07:59 PM	#11
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Yes, but it has been suggested here that PEF files may not be accessible as DNG files will be in the future. And DNG is a better known format. I would rather have a lot of DNG files when I've a few years older, than PEF files that I may not be able to open. I'll see if I can find the thread about this.

03-26-2012, 08:05 PM	#12
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Found the thread I read before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/85538-pentax-ra...le-format.html

03-27-2012, 02:30 AM	#13
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Why not install for both? I agree that the Adobe format is more likely to endure and is my choice when shooting RAW.

03-27-2012, 02:53 AM	#14
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,287	Originally posted by photolady Yes, but it has been suggested here that PEF files may not be accessible as DNG files will be in the future. FUD! PEF will always remain both accessible, editable as well as convertible to whatever revision of DNG will be in fashion. Simply put: PEF--->DNG possible now and into the foreseeable and further future DNG-->PEF impossible now, not likely in future Nuf said!

03-27-2012, 03:28 AM	#15
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Originally posted by newmikey FUD! PEF will always remain both accessible, editable as well as convertible to whatever revision of DNG will be in fashion. I find an extra step when not needed, bothersome. And my statement was from something I read in another thread, not my own thinking.