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08-31-2012, 01:09 AM   #1
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Bit the bullet K30, Lens?

Ok I went for the K-30, now is the kit lens crap? I really want a decent lens (any brand) for portraits with a nice soft blurred background bokeh. I absolutely cannot spend over 400-600 on the lens at this time. Do any of the 18-200mm seem like a good idea like 2 in one for landscapes? Sorry for the novice questions

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which kit did you get? the 18-55 or the 18-135WR?

the 18-55 and 18-135WR is considered as one of the best kit lenses, plus the 18-135 has a very good range from wide to tele. haven't tried it tho' but look at the reviews!

congrats on the k-30.
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Oh, the 18-55! Thanks!!!
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when you do get the funds try and get the 18-135WR or any other WR lens so that you could be worry free about the rain. That's a really big problem for us here in the tropical countries haha. .

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I did decide to change to the 18-135WR! Then I am set until I can save the money for something exceptional
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Two fairly reasonably priced lenses are the DA 50 f1.8 and the DA 35 f2,4. The 50 would probably fit the bill for portrait/narrow depth of field photography better, while the 35 would be a nice walk around prime.

I do think the 18-135 is probably about the best zoom to get with the K30, since it has a nice range and is weather sealed.
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QuoteOriginally posted by northmole Quote
I really want a decent lens (any brand) for portraits with a nice soft blurred background bokeh.
the easiest way to do this is to get a 50mm lens. or get any lens in that focal range that is fast- f2.8 or faster
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For Pentax, I'd go with a 50 or maybe even an old 55 if you can find one. The new 50 is reasonably priced. But when yo uhave you 18-135... shoot some portraits at different focal lengths, pick the one you like best and look to see what FL it was shot at. You have the ability to get the lens you like based on your shooting style.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
Two fairly reasonably priced lenses are the DA 50 f1.8 and the DA 35 f2,4. The 50 would probably fit the bill for portrait/narrow depth of field photography better, while the 35 would be a nice walk around prime.

I do think the 18-135 is probably about the best zoom to get with the K30, since it has a nice range and is weather sealed.
Could not agree more with this assessment. The 35/2.4 is a very nice lens and works well in many indoor environments where the 50/1.8 might be a bit long. The 18-135WR is a very solid sort of universal lens - 18 is short enough for most close situations like tight rooms and 135 is long enough for many distant situations - plus it capitalizes on your K-30 being water resistant!
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I have to agree with normhead above, in fact I'd go one step further. There is a small freeware program called "exposureplot" allows you to load a folder of photos and sorts them according to focal length, lens used, aperture, or various other parameters. After you've been shooting for a month or two, exposureplot will give you a readout on what percentage of shots are in the various different focal lenghts. Takes the guess work out of which lenghts you use most often. With that data you can make an informed decision as to your next lens.
clicky here

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that's awesome NaClH2O, let me try that program! might help me decide what next to buy..
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QuoteOriginally posted by northmole Quote
Ok I went for the K-30, now is the kit lens crap? I really want a decent lens (any brand) for portraits with a nice soft blurred background bokeh. I absolutely cannot spend over 400-600 on the lens at this time. Do any of the 18-200mm seem like a good idea like 2 in one for landscapes? Sorry for the novice questions
Hi northmole,

I'm going to go against many in this forum and suggest that you at least look at the Tamron 18-200 as it's within your price range, and gives you about the same FOV coverage as you Fuji.

Most photo fora members tend to shoot mostly wide to normal, and that may be fine for them, but for a one lens solution, to get started, a superzoom is not a bad alternative. The Tamron is currently available for $299 from B&H, for one, with a MIR of $50, and that's a pretty good deal.

It's not WR, but I've been shooting WR bodies for quite a few years (K10, K20, K-7, K-5), and only have two WR lenses, and don't really miss them because I really don't shoot in the rain much. The WR in the body is generally enough for me because the electronics are protected in case I get caught in an unexpected storm, and I protect the lens with my body, clothes, or a plastic bag that I always have stuck in a pocket for such occasions.

It's slow, but personally, but with the high ISO performance of the K-5 (essentially the same for the K30), I've found whole new uses for the DA 18-250 that I had bought on a whim because it was being closed out at a ridiculously low price a while back.

The IQ is not spectacular, but it's very good, especially for the very wide FL range, and it would be hard to beat for a relatively lightweight one lens carry around.

When my cousin's kid was being inducted as an Eagle Scout last summer, I shot the ceremony with my K-7 and a Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5 and DA* 50-135 f2.8, and gave my cousin's wife (who was vaguely familiar with shooting a film SLR from many years ago) my K-5 and DA 18-250 f3.5-6.3. I set it up in Av priority with the lens wide open, Auto ISO 100-10,000, showed her how to wait for the AF confirmation, then shoot, and sent her on her way, telling her not to change anything except for the zoom. She shot over 100 frames from bright sunlight outdoors to dimly lit indoors without flash, with a relatively even mix of FLs. The results were fantastic with over an 85% keeper rate. Of course the ISO 10K shots needed some NR in post, but not really that much except for the ones she wanted to print large. I only added a few of my better shots to augment hers, and she later told me that all of the families of the other inductees wanted her prints because they were so much better than any of the others they'd seen, even with flash. The DA 18-250 is also my default informal indoor pet shooting lens with the K-5 because of the wide FL range and 1.5 ft Minimum Focusing Distance. Personally, I like a superzoom for convenience even though I own 28 high end to premium lenses from the DA 1-17 FE to the FA* 300 f2.8. It's certainly not the best lens in the litter, but one that gets the call surprisingly often, now that I have a K-5 and can shoot it easily indoors handheld at very high ISO.

As has been suggested, take a look at your use of the Fuji and take plots of the FL usage. If you've shot a pretty even sampling of FLs including telephoto, then something like the Tamron 18-200 or a used DA 18-250 (which is a rebadged Tamron 18-250 -- both are discontinued) might be a good starter, then you can look into premium primes and fast zooms to get improved IQ or performance for more specialized tasks.

Just my 2

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QuoteOriginally posted by northmole Quote
I did decide to change to the 18-135WR! Then I am set until I can save the money for something exceptional
I recently got the K-30 with the 18-135 lens, the lens is shockingly better than what I expected and it has a nice bokeh. But if you want a prime for portraits (try the 18-135 first) a manual focus lens can save you some bucks. If you are shooting portraits on a tripod, the K-30's focus peaking feature can really help nail the focus. I've never had an 18-200, but I've had several 28-200s and would not recommend spending much money on them. the ones I've had were usually soft on the long end. The zooms with a long range that I have had, that are good through the range, are the DA18-135WR, the DA55-300, and the Tamron 28-105. I just sold my Tamron as it became redundant with the 18-135. The 50s may be a very good length for portraits, I don't do many portraits so I can't comment, and I no longer have a 50.
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