on line back up

retired2007 · 04-01-2013, 04:25 PM

hope this is the right forum to put this in . i was looking foe advise for a on line back up for my pictures. can anyone recommend one ? thanks

**jatrax** · 04-01-2013, 05:54 PM

Quite a number of different services. We use ibackup.com for the business and it has been just fine if perhaps a little expensive. But we need it to back up network machines which many of the cheaper services will not do.

If you have only a single PC take a look at Carbonite, last time I checked they were reasonably priced and highly recommended.

If all you want is cloud storage rather than a true backup solution though, you can look into dropbox, Google cloud storage, Amazon Cloud Drive or Microsoft Skydrive. These all offer a few Gigabytes of storage and if your needs are not large they might work.

Medium FormatPro · 04-01-2013, 06:14 PM

Do NOT rely on online back-up only. As every single online back-up company has had serious issues where they have lost the entire content of their customers data. Better to least one hard drive; or a mirrored one

**klh** · 04-01-2013, 06:22 PM

I use Backblaze as my online backup provider. Online Backup & Data Backup Software | Backblaze I have had to use them once to recover lost data and was very pleased with them.

In addition, I back up all my files to an attached external drive.

godavari · 04-01-2013, 06:41 PM

I use smugmug.com to backup and share my pictures. I also, keep copies in an external drive and on a local server.

**Miguel** · 04-01-2013, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by retired2007

hope this is the right forum to put this in . i was looking foe advise for a on line back up for my pictures. can anyone recommend one ? thanks

Perhaps you can articulate your needs a little bit more. These days online backup can mean a lot of things. How many files? What is the total size in GB or TB? What file format? Do you want to have an album viewing capability that friends and family could tap into? Do you need to integrate with a mobile device or iPad? You know, stuff like that.

M

**grhazelton** · 04-01-2013, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by klh

I use Backblaze as my online backup provider. Online Backup & Data Backup Software | Backblaze I have had to use them once to recover lost data and was very pleased with them.

In addition, I back up all my files to an attached external drive.

I also use Backblaze and also had to recover lost data. Worked fine. I have two removeable 2T hard drives for on-site backup.

thechumpen · 04-02-2013, 12:40 AM

Also, if you are more technically minded and happy to run a server then take a look at Windows Server 2012 Essentials. This allows you to integrate Azure online backup so you can have local backup on the server (with mirrored disks etc), backup to local USB and backup of selected data to cloud. However, the cloud backup part is still a preview. Whilst it works great and is currently free it will not stay that way, and they haven't announced pricing yet...

**Kerrowdown** · 04-02-2013, 02:17 AM

Usually on line back up can work out expensive and can be quite slow depending on your connection speeds.

Have you considered a couple of external drives, usually faster, can be cheaper in the longer run, depending on the amount of data you have and can still be stored off site.

Tom S. · 04-02-2013, 03:59 AM

I've used Carbonite for a couple of years now, and it saved me when several of my WD hard drives crashed (including the external one I used for backup) taking my data with them. It runs continuously in the background, and at $50 a year, when signing up for 3 years, it is cost effective IMHO.

**Lowell Goudge** · 04-02-2013, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by kerrowdown

Usually on line back up can work out expensive and can be quite slow depending on your connection speeds.

Have you considered a couple of external drives, usually faster, can be cheaper in the longer run, depending on the amount of data you have and can still be stored off site.

I would completely agree. You pay a fixed monthly fee, that within a few monts generally exceeds the cost of a USB connected 1TB drive.

I use external back up drives, with one locked in a secure off site location, a second locked up at home. I have never had to use this yet for photos, but I use the same strategy with my work computer, and it has saved my &$$ several times when computers get dropped or fail (if you travel every 1-2 weeks it is inevitable ). Life expectancy of my work PC is about 3 years

retired2007 · 04-02-2013, 05:55 AM

thanks for all the help. i was looking for a place to back up my pictures for an extra back up . i have a back up for my computer but want a second back up of my pictures to also be able to share. thanks again

**Lowell Goudge** · 04-02-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by retired2007

thanks for all the help. i was looking for a place to back up my pictures for an extra back up . i have a back up for my computer but want a second back up of my pictures to also be able to share. thanks again

Ok, now that we have this established, the are a couple of things to consider. Shared sites are not, by nature, secure back up sites. Generally all those with access have the ability to delete files. You may also not be willing to share the same photos with everyone. As a result, you may wish to separate the two things

As I said, I consider that backups should be off line, one in. Your house, one not. It is relatively simple swap disks and keep back ups current.

As for on line backup, one thing to consider is using the "cloud" as it is often referred to, these days for temporary storage, such as when travelling, you can upload your shots daily just in case....., although that would require Internet access (not guaranteed) and possibly also taking your computer with you(not always desireable)

Some of the portable drives with card readers built in and also battery packs built in can be a great advantage in this area and you should consider them for travel if you don't want to pack a computer, but for home use, i think multiple portable hard disks are the best

bdery · 04-02-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by godavari

I use smugmug.com to backup and share my pictures. I also, keep copies in an external drive and on a local server.

+1 for smugmug. 30$ the first year if you register via their Android app, 60$ after that, unlimited storage plus you get an actual website and gallery.

ducdao · 04-02-2013, 10:32 AM

One of my major concerns with online backup sites is the Intellectual Property and confidentiality of the data. These sites can change their user agreement so quickly and secretly that sooner or later it's sort of bait and switch thing. Look at how quickly Instagram and Facebook update their user agreements. Look at how often the FEDS request online storage sites to access your online storage for whatever reasons...Granted the FEDS can also come and knock on my door with a warrant but at least I will be warned at that time.

Call me paranoid but I only trust my external HDD for backup solution.

04-01-2013, 04:25 PM	#1
retired2007 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: new Albany IN Posts: 861	on line back up hope this is the right forum to put this in . i was looking foe advise for a on line back up for my pictures. can anyone recommend one ? thanks

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04-01-2013, 05:54 PM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Quite a number of different services. We use ibackup.com for the business and it has been just fine if perhaps a little expensive. But we need it to back up network machines which many of the cheaper services will not do. If you have only a single PC take a look at Carbonite, last time I checked they were reasonably priced and highly recommended. If all you want is cloud storage rather than a true backup solution though, you can look into dropbox, Google cloud storage, Amazon Cloud Drive or Microsoft Skydrive. These all offer a few Gigabytes of storage and if your needs are not large they might work.

04-01-2013, 06:14 PM	#3
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Do NOT rely on online back-up only. As every single online back-up company has had serious issues where they have lost the entire content of their customers data. Better to least one hard drive; or a mirrored one

04-01-2013, 06:22 PM	#4
klh Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Lafayette, Indiana, USA Posts: 827	I use Backblaze as my online backup provider. Online Backup & Data Backup Software \| Backblaze I have had to use them once to recover lost data and was very pleased with them. In addition, I back up all my files to an attached external drive.

04-01-2013, 06:41 PM	#5
godavari Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 230	I use smugmug.com to backup and share my pictures. I also, keep copies in an external drive and on a local server.

04-01-2013, 08:58 PM	#6
Miguel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,743	Originally posted by retired2007 hope this is the right forum to put this in . i was looking foe advise for a on line back up for my pictures. can anyone recommend one ? thanks Perhaps you can articulate your needs a little bit more. These days online backup can mean a lot of things. How many files? What is the total size in GB or TB? What file format? Do you want to have an album viewing capability that friends and family could tap into? Do you need to integrate with a mobile device or iPad? You know, stuff like that. M

04-01-2013, 10:51 PM	#7
grhazelton Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jonesboro, GA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	Originally posted by klh I use Backblaze as my online backup provider. Online Backup & Data Backup Software \| Backblaze I have had to use them once to recover lost data and was very pleased with them. In addition, I back up all my files to an attached external drive. I also use Backblaze and also had to recover lost data. Worked fine. I have two removeable 2T hard drives for on-site backup.

04-02-2013, 12:40 AM	#8
thechumpen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Middle of England Photos: Albums Posts: 296	Also, if you are more technically minded and happy to run a server then take a look at Windows Server 2012 Essentials. This allows you to integrate Azure online backup so you can have local backup on the server (with mirrored disks etc), backup to local USB and backup of selected data to cloud. However, the cloud backup part is still a preview. Whilst it works great and is currently free it will not stay that way, and they haven't announced pricing yet...

04-02-2013, 02:17 AM	#9
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,819	Usually on line back up can work out expensive and can be quite slow depending on your connection speeds. Have you considered a couple of external drives, usually faster, can be cheaper in the longer run, depending on the amount of data you have and can still be stored off site.

04-02-2013, 03:59 AM	#10
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	I've used Carbonite for a couple of years now, and it saved me when several of my WD hard drives crashed (including the external one I used for backup) taking my data with them. It runs continuously in the background, and at $50 a year, when signing up for 3 years, it is cost effective IMHO.

04-02-2013, 04:11 AM	#11
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Originally posted by kerrowdown Usually on line back up can work out expensive and can be quite slow depending on your connection speeds. Have you considered a couple of external drives, usually faster, can be cheaper in the longer run, depending on the amount of data you have and can still be stored off site. I would completely agree. You pay a fixed monthly fee, that within a few monts generally exceeds the cost of a USB connected 1TB drive. I use external back up drives, with one locked in a secure off site location, a second locked up at home. I have never had to use this yet for photos, but I use the same strategy with my work computer, and it has saved my &$$ several times when computers get dropped or fail (if you travel every 1-2 weeks it is inevitable ). Life expectancy of my work PC is about 3 years

04-02-2013, 05:55 AM	#12
retired2007 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: new Albany IN Posts: 861 Original Poster	thanks for all the help. i was looking for a place to back up my pictures for an extra back up . i have a back up for my computer but want a second back up of my pictures to also be able to share. thanks again

04-02-2013, 09:48 AM	#13
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Originally posted by retired2007 thanks for all the help. i was looking for a place to back up my pictures for an extra back up . i have a back up for my computer but want a second back up of my pictures to also be able to share. thanks again Ok, now that we have this established, the are a couple of things to consider. Shared sites are not, by nature, secure back up sites. Generally all those with access have the ability to delete files. You may also not be willing to share the same photos with everyone. As a result, you may wish to separate the two things As I said, I consider that backups should be off line, one in. Your house, one not. It is relatively simple swap disks and keep back ups current. As for on line backup, one thing to consider is using the "cloud" as it is often referred to, these days for temporary storage, such as when travelling, you can upload your shots daily just in case....., although that would require Internet access (not guaranteed) and possibly also taking your computer with you(not always desireable) Some of the portable drives with card readers built in and also battery packs built in can be a great advantage in this area and you should consider them for travel if you don't want to pack a computer, but for home use, i think multiple portable hard disks are the best

04-02-2013, 10:00 AM	#14
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by godavari I use smugmug.com to backup and share my pictures. I also, keep copies in an external drive and on a local server. +1 for smugmug. 30$ the first year if you register via their Android app, 60$ after that, unlimited storage plus you get an actual website and gallery.

04-02-2013, 10:32 AM	#15
ducdao Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montreal/Vermont Posts: 2,160	One of my major concerns with online backup sites is the Intellectual Property and confidentiality of the data. These sites can change their user agreement so quickly and secretly that sooner or later it's sort of bait and switch thing. Look at how quickly Instagram and Facebook update their user agreements. Look at how often the FEDS request online storage sites to access your online storage for whatever reasons...Granted the FEDS can also come and knock on my door with a warrant but at least I will be warned at that time. Call me paranoid but I only trust my external HDD for backup solution.