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07-20-2013, 12:47 PM   #1
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I want a lot of grain in my picture

I have a k5IIs I used to do film camera
But in digital ?
If I put my Iso at 3200 or 6400 +
And open my aperture at max for outside picture

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You can increase digital noise by using high ISO, but the most effective way to simulate grainy film is to use one of the software tools/plugins that approximate the film look. Google "add film grain software".

...or...

You could simply shoot grainy film with a film camera and have the negatives scanned.


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Digital "grain" means managing the adding of noise back into a lower ISO image.
A tool like Lightroom allows you to add noise by size and intensity via sliders and apply it to the whole image. You can also confine visual noise to defined areas of the shot.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
You can increase digital noise by using high ISO, but the most effective way to simulate grainy film is to use one of the software tools/plugins that approximate the film look. Google "add film grain software".

...or...

You could simply shoot grainy film with a film camera and have the negatives scanned.


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Ok thank you I sold my beautifull Pentax 6x7
Last summer with film I not after 42 years but
Digital
Anyway ok what plug in I can't in photoshop or Lightroom ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Miguel Quote
Digital "grain" means managing the adding of noise back into a lower ISO image.
A tool like Lightroom allows you to add noise by size and intensity via sliders and apply it to the whole image. You can also confine visual noise to defined areas of the shot.

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Thank you very much
I will go in my Lightroom and check it
Flickr: Afrowhite57's Photostream

Look at the 1977 picture of the Tum stone
It was a 1000 Kodak slide film push at 3000 ISO
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QuoteOriginally posted by afrowhite Quote
I have a k5IIs I used to do film camera
But in digital ?
If I put my Iso at 3200 or 6400 +
And open my aperture at max for outside picture
Adding grain during during post-processing is the most effective, as then you'd still have the original to work with.

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Digital "grain" means managing the adding of noise back into a lower ISO image.
A tool like Lightroom allows you to add noise by size and intensity via sliders and apply it to the whole image. You can also confine visual noise to defined areas of the shot.

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Thank you I will try it in photoshop and lighroom
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Use grain tools in post (such as Lightroom). Digital noise from high ISO isn't as interesting as film grain (IMO).

Edit: it's not a plugin for Lightroom, it's just built in. There's a grain slider near the bottom of the develop settings.

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You can also get various film presets to use with Lightroom, which gives the selected film type appearance to your images.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
Adding grain during during post-processing is the most effective
Not something I normally do but just thought I would give it a try...

PS+NIK Silver+other stuff just for the hell of it.

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Not to be a defeatist here but if I want grain I get a roll of 400ISO B&W film, exposť it at 3200 and push it 3 stops I processing , then scan.

I have a PZ1 that does just fine at film thank you
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If you want grain, and want to try grain from dozens of f different films, there is nothing better than DXO FilmPak 3. It has a full set of complete controls and the combinations are limitless.
You should at least try a free trial, all I have suggested it to have come back to thank me , it is very good. Excellent for B/W conversions too.

For me, it is also a fun program to use....I love that!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rupert Quote
If you want grain, and want to try grain from dozens of f different films, there is nothing better than DXO FilmPak 3. It has a full set of complete controls and the combinations are limitless.
Some grain 'simulations' are pretty bad.

Film Simulation Test - DXO Filmpack 3 vs Topaz B&W Effects v1.1 vs Silver Efex Pro 2 vs Truegrain (Ilford Delta 3200) - a set on Flickr
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
Some grain 'simulations' are pretty bad.
I assume that if you are adding grain, you are not looking for the best clean IQ? Like putting on your best Sunday shirt and smearing it with a little chocolate? Maybe you need to add your grain them use Neat Image or something similar to clean it up? Makes good sense......I guess???

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rupert Quote
I assume that if you are adding grain, you are not looking for the best clean IQ? Like putting on your best Sunday shirt and smearing it with a little chocolate? Maybe you need to add your grain them use Neat Image or something similar to clean it up? Makes good sense......I guess???
There is a lot more to simulating grain than just overlaying the image with some random noise. TrueGrain is the only software that comes near to the real thing because it is based on actual scans of film stock - TrueGrain Set - a set on Flickr

If you've never taped a really big sheet of photo paper to the door of your darkroom, turned your enlarger through ninety degrees, exposed for minutes and then developed using a mop and a bucket, then you'll never understand the point of it.

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