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03-20-2008, 10:52 AM   #1
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Newbie start up :K100d super or K10D

Hi, new of this.
I would like to start with my first dslr.
At the beginning i was tempted by a Canon 30D but i swith to pentax cause i think the kit lens is much better to start with.
My photos are family-oriented, 60% indoor and the rest vacations street and some landscape.
I would like to know if for me its better to start with a k100d or immediately with a k10d.
I own an old minolta slr 35mmm so i'm not new at all.
I'm not sure if K100d still worth the money, maybe with some bucks more i could buy the definitive choice in k10.
Thanks.

P.s. Is there any place to understand what lense is manual focus and what lens are Autofocun in these two Pentax Dslr ?

03-20-2008, 11:18 AM   #2
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I got a K100D two months ago, coming from a half-new Canon P&S. Even now, some things does bother me, especially when reading about the K10D.

If you have the money, and know you are going to use it a lot, I would have picked the K10D.

(I didn't really have the money, and the K100D was under half the price of the K10D-equivalent Samsung GX-10, so it does not bother me too much. Still, missing especially speed and some functionality. Image quality wise, I don't care, though.)


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I suppose that is always what it's like. Wanting something better and newer.
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Do you need picture modes? If yes, then K100D is for you, if not go for K10D as it is more advanced camera. If you are tight with budget, go for K100D as you can get it cheaper.

You mentioned that you are doing 60% indoor shooting. In this case I would recommend good external flash. This would set you back $200 or more for the P-TTL flash. So with careful shopping you could get K100D Super kit with flash for about the same as K10D (I think because I am not that current with prices).
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If you have the money, the K10D.

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Not new to SLRs? You'll still find the K100D meeting all your needs - has all the important modes plus those automatic scene modes (if that's your thing). Then the decision you need to make is whether you're happy with 6Mpixels or you'll 'need' more than that.

I had a K100D and LOOOOVED it - shot with it at every opportunity, and got great portrait results especially with the FA 50/1.4.

So if you're more keen on saving money, or just not spending so much, I'd also suggest the K100D but to include the FA 50/1.4 in your lens collection for the brilliant portraits it can produce.

Also make sure you get the kit Pentax lens and DA 50-200 or Sigma 70-300 APO or Tamron Di 70-300. Don't settle for the cheaper Sigma 18-50 DC and 70-300 DG Macro lenses if you value good quality images. The lenses are more important than the camera body.

I did upgrade to the K10D but more for the easier-to-access features and dedicated battery grip, which make me feel like a photographer even though I aint one! (I know, how vain....) But the TAv and Sv modes are no gimmicks, and the Hyper P mode has been very useful, and then the image processing speed is much faster in the K10D, which only becomes important when taking many shots in succession (fast-moving kids, sports, etc)

There are quite a few more practical advantages the K10D has over the K100D, but you'll have to see which ones matter to you and base your choice on those benefits.

Hope this helps you...

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Thanks guys, i will search a k100d just to understand a Dslr and buy some good lenses.
An eventually future upgrade in one year maybe could be the new K20...

What about AF lenses on Pentax ?
Lens like 44 or 77 limited editions called as pancake are manual focus ?
Thanks.
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Any of the Pentax F, FA, FA J, D FA or DA lenses are autofocus, but of course can be switched to manual focus with the camera body switch. The D FA and DA lenses have the advantage of being "quick shift focus", which allows you to manually adjust focus in Autofocus mode at any stage.

The DA 70 is a popular pancake lens, great for portraits - very sharp. But any of the limited lenses are also brilliant choices, if you have the money. Many of those lenses cost more than the K100D body. The FA 77 limited has been discussed a lot in this forum - quite a special lens indeed.

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Watching around, i notice that the price for K10d is almost the same to K200d.
What about this new camera to start with ?
Should be almost same at k10d but maybe more newbie-oriented.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Siver Surfer Quote
Thanks guys, i will search a k100d just to understand a Dslr and buy some good lenses.
An eventually future upgrade in one year maybe could be the new K20...

What about AF lenses on Pentax ?
Lens like 44 or 77 limited editions called as pancake are manual focus ?
Thanks.
where are you based ? I just got a K10D + the smc 18-55 pentax kit lens + a tamaron 70-300 + 4 GB SDHC card + case all for 500 £ from srs microsystems but they only deliver to the UK, that kit is on limited offer and is great value for money
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Great price, but unfortunately i'm not living in the U.K. right now :-)
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ah ok well unfortunately they only ship to the UK
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Having both the K100D (not the super) and the K10D, assuming you have some camera background (which it sounds like you do), I would definitely go for the K10!
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what is the difference between the K100D super and the K100D ? and the K10D grand prix and the K10D ?
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